Connecting the DoTs: A Summoner Guide

[Charybdis]

"An issue wherein food effects were not properly granted to pets."

Interesting little blip from the patch notes. Still working on the pet testing, apologies for the silence/wait.

[Sleigh]

I don't think that applied to pets in general in all conditions, I never had pets miss when I was ACC capped so I'm guessing it was a glitch that was activated somehow on something, rather than permanent.

Could have been other sub-stats besides ACC, I guess.

[Charybdis]

Yeah wasn't sure the context, linked for generating conversation and to see if anyone knew anything more about it.

[Olio]

I have some questions regarding what is considered good dps at my current gear level. Im currently sitting at 182 with my i200 eso book with the rest being upgraded law. Ive spend hours in front of dummies and for the life of me cant get over 950 steady dps. I can burst up to 1300 to 1350 in my opener but cant keep it above 950 after. Ive gotten the opening rotation down well and keep my dots up, pet buffs on cd, and time my stacks to get 2 festers into every trance and reapply dots when they have 2-3 seconds left. Im not particularly into endgame raiding so I dont have my gear melded and dont use potions. Is that possibly where a large chunk of my dps is lost? I just feel lost, like im trying to measure myself with a stick that i cant even see and its getting to be really disheartening.

[Sleigh]

Did 1100 tonight on A3S, no AST/BRD/NIN. Still doing my very little real DPS in add phase strat. Whoever once said SMN skill cap is low ...

I have some questions regarding what is considered good dps at my current gear level. Im currently sitting at 182 with my i200 eso book with the rest being upgraded law. Ive spend hours in front of dummies and for the life of me cant get over 950 steady dps. I can burst up to 1300 to 1350 in my opener but cant keep it above 950 after. Ive gotten the opening rotation down well and keep my dots up, pet buffs on cd, and time my stacks to get 2 festers into every trance and reapply dots when they have 2-3 seconds left. Im not particularly into endgame raiding so I dont have my gear melded and dont use potions. Is that possibly where a large chunk of my dps is lost? I just feel lost, like im trying to measure myself with a stick that i cant even see and its getting to be really disheartening.

A bit low TBH for your gear but without you going into further detail on what you're doing wrong I'm not sure what advice to give. I guess a checklist would maybe help you find out if you're doing it wrong?

- Auto-attacking?
- Miasma 2 instead of R2 on a dummy during DWT with Garuda?
- 2 Enkindles, 4 sets of pet buffs in total?
- Using food/party buff?

If you are keeping your DoTs up virtually 100%, using R3 as much as possible, and not missing any Deathflares or CDs, you should be closer to 1050-1100 on an average run.

[Minorinz]

I have some questions regarding what is considered good dps at my current gear level. Im currently sitting at 182 with my i200 eso book with the rest being upgraded law. Ive spend hours in front of dummies and for the life of me cant get over 950 steady dps. I can burst up to 1300 to 1350 in my opener but cant keep it above 950 after. Ive gotten the opening rotation down well and keep my dots up, pet buffs on cd, and time my stacks to get 2 festers into every trance and reapply dots when they have 2-3 seconds left. Im not particularly into endgame raiding so I dont have my gear melded and dont use potions. Is that possibly where a large chunk of my dps is lost? I just feel lost, like im trying to measure myself with a stick that i cant even see and its getting to be really disheartening.

Whats your opener? Also how many cds are you squeezing per 1 gcd? When you say i182 what is your total INT with party buff?

[Sidra]

I have some questions regarding what is considered good dps at my current gear level. Im currently sitting at 182 with my i200 eso book with the rest being upgraded law. Ive spend hours in front of dummies and for the life of me cant get over 950 steady dps. I can burst up to 1300 to 1350 in my opener but cant keep it above 950 after. Ive gotten the opening rotation down well and keep my dots up, pet buffs on cd, and time my stacks to get 2 festers into every trance and reapply dots when they have 2-3 seconds left. Im not particularly into endgame raiding so I dont have my gear melded and dont use potions. Is that possibly where a large chunk of my dps is lost? I just feel lost, like im trying to measure myself with a stick that i cant even see and its getting to be really disheartening.

First off, at i182 that DPS isn't too bad. Keep in mind a lot of people are over 190 now. But the thing jumping out at me is 2 Festers every Dreadwyrm Trance. That should really only happen on your first DT. After that, if you get into Dreadwyrm Trance and have 2 stacks, it means you are delaying Dreadwyrm Trance a lot, and probably Aetherflow as well (it time gates DT, you never ever want to not use it every minute). You don't want to do that. After your opener, you basically want to use Festers on CD only delay DT to ensure your dots are up so that you can Ruin throughout it's duration.

[Kona_Nightwind]

First off, at i182 that DPS isn't too bad. Keep in mind a lot of people are over 190 now. But the thing jumping out at me is 2 Festers every Dreadwyrm Trance. That should really only happen on your first DT. After that, if you get into Dreadwyrm Trance and have 2 stacks, it means you are delaying Dreadwyrm Trance a lot, and probably Aetherflow as well (it time gates DT, you never ever want to not use it every minute). You don't want to do that. After your opener, you basically want to use Festers on CD only delay DT to ensure your dots are up so that you can Ruin throughout it's duration.

You always want to do two Festers in a DWT, excluding your opener if you use sleighs. Then you use your third fester after Aether CD is less than 30 secs. That way you get 2 Festers in every DWT.

[Kona_Nightwind]

I have some questions regarding what is considered good dps at my current gear level. Im currently sitting at 182 with my i200 eso book with the rest being upgraded law. Ive spend hours in front of dummies and for the life of me cant get over 950 steady dps. I can burst up to 1300 to 1350 in my opener but cant keep it above 950 after. Ive gotten the opening rotation down well and keep my dots up, pet buffs on cd, and time my stacks to get 2 festers into every trance and reapply dots when they have 2-3 seconds left. Im not particularly into endgame raiding so I dont have my gear melded and dont use potions. Is that possibly where a large chunk of my dps is lost? I just feel lost, like im trying to measure myself with a stick that i cant even see and its getting to be really disheartening.

What food are you using, what pots, do you have ACT including pet damage?

[Charybdis]

Update on Spell Speed Pet testing:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

It took a bit of creativity to figure out how to test Spell Speed without changing WD/INT/DET/CRT but I figured it out and set my baseline and the first Spell Speed increase data last night. The Spell Speed increase was roughly +30 and yielded 0 measurable change for increase of dps. I'll be raising it with intervals of 27-36 four more times then possibly a fifth. At that point increasing Spell Speed without changing my baseline stats will become impossible. However, I did think of testing the following:

Dervy says Spell Speed is affecting pet damage. Maybe it is or isn't, I haven't raised the interval enough to notice. But since the 3.0 Spell Speed changes and them affecting pets, the pet abilities ALSO became magic abilities or spells. If they are receiving Spell Speed benefit maybe it's not damage at all, but an actual recast reduction on their abilities. This would be easy to test as I could ignore tracking actual damage at all: