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    Judge_Xero's Avatar
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    Divine Gate
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    I would wager that AA is now about 1% of your DPS in an actual fight. Just due to disconnects and cast times.

    Perfect case of 33 DPS. It doesn't take a whole lot to decrease that to 10-15 DPS.
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    Charybdis Messina
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    Siren
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    Summoner Lv 60
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

    Getting close to being done with pet data. Another 6 lines of data which should be done tonight. let me know if something is missing, Dervy.

    All tests EXCLUDE Enhanced Pet Actions. I made the pets stop attacking when the proc occurred.
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    Dervy Yakimi
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Chary do you have any pet data with 354 CRT?

    EDIT: Pets are stupid. They do not work as I initially thought it seems... T0rin, back with your old Sim, how did you calculate pet damage?
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    Last edited by Dervy; 08-30-2015 at 02:21 PM.

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    I can easily do one if you need, Dervy. Will the other stats matter? or just 354 CRT?
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    Dervy Yakimi
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    It's fine, I fixed it What I do need is someone at base CRT leaving their Pet on AFK for like 20-30 mins, and recording their CRT %, then doing the same at like 400ish, 500ish and 600ish crt. That will help out, a lot.

    What were the weapons you used for 11 and 89 MD btw Chary? I need their raw AA_DMG and AA_Delay. I think I've figured out how Ifrits AA work, but I need those other weapons. I'm not going to bother with 0 WD/AA, as I have no idea how AA's work with a broken weapon. All I do know is that base AA isn't 0.

    I'm still, absolutely stumped on Action Damage though... Ifrit just doesn't want to work.
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    Leather Grimoire NQ for 11 MD
    http://xivdb.com/?item/2143/Leather-Grimoire

    Baldur Grimoire for 89
    http://xivdb.com/?item/11374/Baldur-Grimoire

    I'll start the base CRT test now. Do the other stats matter when doing the CRT tests?

    EDIT: And do you need both pets or just one?
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    Last edited by Charybdis; 08-30-2015 at 03:19 PM.

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    Nah other stats don't matter, as I'm only verifying the Crit Rate. I've seen some odd posts here about Pet Crit Rate which don't make sense, considering Crit Damage scales similarly to us players.

    Also, your AA test on Ifrit with 89 MD is interacting really funny with my solver. Once I removed it, my variance of errors dropped Dramatically from 5.8 to 0.100 (which is a huge drop), so there's definitely an error in the recorded AAs.

    As for how AA's ifrit works. It scales off your Weapons Physical Damage, which is why I wanted to know the weapons. Ifrit scales WD and DET slightly better, but scales INT 1/3 less than a Summoner.
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    Last edited by Dervy; 08-30-2015 at 03:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    Also, your AA test on Ifrit with 89 MD is interacting really funny with my solver. Once I removed it, my variance of errors dropped Dramatically from 5.8 to 0.100 (which is a huge drop), so there's definitely an error in the recorded AAs.
    Really weird... I wonder if I goofed there somewhere. 354 CRT going up in a sec.

    EDIT: 354 CRT up. Doing a 411 then I need to hit the bed. Will finish tomorrow early if someone doesn't before me!
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    Last edited by Charybdis; 08-30-2015 at 03:47 PM.

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    What a mess.

    Garuda scales off Magic Damage, Ifrit scales off Physical Damage. Even though Ifrit uses a Weapons Physical Damage for both Auto-Attacks and Action Skills, it stills scales off Intelligence, not Strength. lol.

    But, your AA's as a Summoner scales via Strength...
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    Last edited by Dervy; 08-30-2015 at 04:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    What a mess.

    Garuda scales off Magic Damage, Ifrit scales off Physical Damage. Even though Ifrit uses a Weapons Physical Damage for both Auto-Attacks and Action Skills, it stills scales off Intelligence, not Strength. lol.
    Every time you say stuff like this I laugh because I can't imagine how bad it must suck. 411 CRT up.

    Doing 508 now because who needs sleep!
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    Last edited by Charybdis; 08-30-2015 at 04:21 PM.

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