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  1. #1131
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    SaintK's Avatar
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    Saint Kush
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    Leviathan
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    Conjurer Lv 58
    So the first post says to keep gauss barrel up but everywhere else I read to toggle it off? When do you determine when to turn on gauss barrel and when to turn it off?
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  2. #1132
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    Kuraran's Avatar
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    Shalltear Bloodfallen
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by SaintK View Post
    So the first post says to keep gauss barrel up but everywhere else I read to toggle it off? When do you determine when to turn on gauss barrel and when to turn it off?
    From what I know you toggle Gauss Barrel off after you're done with your opener for the next 7 seconds or so before turning it on again (since Gauss Round will be off CD at this point and you need to reapply Lead Shot).

    After that, you try to turn whenever you're personally comfortagble with turning it of but general rule of thumb should be as follows:

    1. Are your OGCD abilities that deal damage (Ricochet, Gauss Round, Blank, Head Graze/Suppresive Fire) on CD?
    If yes, turn GB off.
    If no, turn GB on and use them if GB is not already active

    2. Do you need to reapply Lead Shot?
    Yes: Turn GB on
    No: Turn GB off and if GB is not active then leave it at thatuntil a OGCD comes up for use or you need to reapply Lead Shot again

    Usually you'll end up with being without GB for~ 5-7 seconds depending on how your CD's are aligning when you turn it off, so I personally am not really sure it actually makes sense to stance dance but I'm still doing it.
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  3. #1133
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    Ephier Samoht
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    Ultros
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Do note, as weapon damage and side stats increase, stance dancing gets worse due to scaling.
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  4. #1134
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    Ellunavi Sevald
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    Sargatanas
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    Alchemist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Ephier View Post
    Do note, as weapon damage and side stats increase, stance dancing gets worse due to scaling.
    I'm fairly positive that increased weapon damage will not make stance dancing worse.

    Secondary stats will though, but it would take quite a bit of them. your GCD needs to be about 2.22 or so for stance dancing to yield no benefit. I'm not sure how much det or Crit are needed to make stance dancing meaningless.
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  5. #1135
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    Ephier Samoht
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    Ultros
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Lavieh View Post
    I'm fairly positive that increased weapon damage will not make stance dancing worse.

    Secondary stats will though, but it would take quite a bit of them. your GCD needs to be about 2.22 or so for stance dancing to yield no benefit. I'm not sure how much det or Crit are needed to make stance dancing meaningless.
    It does due to scaling.

    Tentative Stat Weights (3.01)
    w/o GB
    WD - 9.172

    w/ GB
    WD - 10.71

    For every weapon damage you get GB gets stronger.
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  6. #1136
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    BannedatRegistration's Avatar
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    Sasori Redsand
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by girlsimulation View Post
    ok http://youtu.be/N7qirICRmD0
    Definitely not my best performance, but running OBS makes my game laggy enough that playing optimally while recording is really hard.
    If anyone has any advice or can see any mistakes I'm making (aside from obvious stuff like 2:51) I'd appreciate it, I still don't feel like I understand this class completely. Also, I realized after posting he said "3-4 minute parse", not "3:40 minute parse"--3:40 parses seem to be standard, so that's what I did, but obviously I'm not pulling 1050 at the 3 minute mark, and I wouldn't be if I continued to 4 (usually I'm around 1010 at 4 minutes).

    my latency when I recorded this: http://puu.sh/jIk0Z/b0de57907f.jpg
    so in an environment where mechanics are an issue, you're doing the same DPS as everyone else which is above 900 and ideally over 1k...gotcha
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  7. #1137
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    Greywolfamakir's Avatar
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    Greywolf Amakir
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by girlsimulation View Post
    ok http://youtu.be/N7qirICRmD0
    Definitely not my best performance, but running OBS makes my game laggy enough that playing optimally while recording is really hard.
    If anyone has any advice or can see any mistakes I'm making (aside from obvious stuff like 2:51) I'd appreciate it, I still don't feel like I understand this class completely. Also, I realized after posting he said "3-4 minute parse", not "3:40 minute parse"--3:40 parses seem to be standard, so that's what I did, but obviously I'm not pulling 1050 at the 3 minute mark, and I wouldn't be if I continued to 4 (usually I'm around 1010 at 4 minutes).

    my latency when I recorded this: http://puu.sh/jIk0Z/b0de57907f.jpg
    Using Heartbreak....

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  8. #1138
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    girlsimulation's Avatar
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    Vinegar Vinegar
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by BannedatRegistration View Post
    so in an environment where mechanics are an issue, you're doing the same DPS as everyone else which is above 900 and ideally over 1k...gotcha
    I mean, I guess it depends on whether you mean overall dps or dps throughout the entire parse? idk, I wasn't trying to brag or whatever, I was just saying that a currently geared mch should be doing significantly more than 900 on a dummy. Like, if you're i180 or above and you're pulling in the low 900s on a 3:40 parse there is stuff you're doing wrong that you can fix. Sorry if it seemed like I was trying to show off, I guess?

    Quote Originally Posted by Greywolfamakir View Post
    Using Heartbreak....
    Do people not do that? That actually makes sense, my bad lol. If you're curious my parse claims it was about 10 dps in this video so w/e.
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  9. #1139
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    Sasori Redsand
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    Behemoth
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    Machinist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Greywolfamakir View Post
    Using Heartbreak....
    really? I didn't even bother looking at the videos because the post was enough for me to know at i186 you ain't pulling big boy numbers no matter how much passion you press a button with...but that's a bad look lol
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    Last edited by BannedatRegistration; 08-21-2015 at 10:24 AM.
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  10. #1140
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    Vinegar Vinegar
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by BannedatRegistration View Post
    I didn't even bother looking at the videos
    Wow dude, sure glad you're here to be respectful and helpful towards people who wanna know about machinist
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