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    Ephier's Avatar
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    Ephier Samoht
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Do note, as weapon damage and side stats increase, stance dancing gets worse due to scaling.
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    Ellunavi Sevald
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    Alchemist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Ephier View Post
    Do note, as weapon damage and side stats increase, stance dancing gets worse due to scaling.
    I'm fairly positive that increased weapon damage will not make stance dancing worse.

    Secondary stats will though, but it would take quite a bit of them. your GCD needs to be about 2.22 or so for stance dancing to yield no benefit. I'm not sure how much det or Crit are needed to make stance dancing meaningless.
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    Ephier Samoht
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavieh View Post
    I'm fairly positive that increased weapon damage will not make stance dancing worse.

    Secondary stats will though, but it would take quite a bit of them. your GCD needs to be about 2.22 or so for stance dancing to yield no benefit. I'm not sure how much det or Crit are needed to make stance dancing meaningless.
    It does due to scaling.

    Tentative Stat Weights (3.01)
    w/o GB
    WD - 9.172

    w/ GB
    WD - 10.71

    For every weapon damage you get GB gets stronger.
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    Dervy Yakimi
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Ephier View Post
    It does due to scaling.

    Tentative Stat Weights (3.01)
    w/o GB
    WD - 9.172

    w/ GB
    WD - 10.71

    For every weapon damage you get GB gets stronger.
    I don't see why this would be such a big difference? For bards at least,

    W/O WM
    WD: 11.364

    W/ WM
    WD: 11.602.

    It's only a 0.3 difference. Why would there be a whole 1.6 difference for a Machinist? Makes no sense in my head, unless there's something I'm severely missing and/or forgetting about the Machinist?
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    Ephier Samoht
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    I don't see why this would be such a big difference? For bards at least,

    W/O WM
    WD: 11.364

    W/ WM
    WD: 11.602.

    It's only a 0.3 difference. Why would there be a whole 1.6 difference for a Machinist? Makes no sense in my head, unless there's something I'm severely missing and/or forgetting about the Machinist?
    Those are not my numbers, they are from the OP's post on the first page (was too lazy to make a quote, hue). My guesses would be ammo adding potency to skills, hot shot, procs, rapid fire and free crit modifier.
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