Shots Fired: A Machinist Guide

[seekified]

Sorry to interrupt the nice QR discussion but I have a noob question.

I suggest using the Extended Crossbar system (enable in Character Config > Hotbars > Cross, then go to Sharing tab and untick crossbar 8). I can fit all MCH skills on two crossbars including crossclassed skills. Basically, keep all main rotation and attack skills on crossbar 1. On crossbar 8 which you can now access with L2+R2 and R2+L2 you put cooldowns and autoturret controls.

What I've also done is enable two vertical hotbars and moved them next to my crossbar and copied my cooldowns to those so that I can easily track the cooldowns without swapping bars all the time. I use this system with all jobs and it really flows for me. I main DRG which is another fairly button-intense job and ever since I switched to this method I have a lot more brain power left over for fight awareness.

[RiisWolf]

I'm not liking that you can get the Clean Shot Proc even if you never got the Slug Shot Proc.

[Phyllo]

I'm not liking that you can get the Clean Shot Proc even if you never got the Slug Shot Proc.

Think of it as a fail safe, machinist has a lot to keep track on and that micromanagement can sometimes lead to messing up like accidentally pressing slug instead of split, if such thing happens there is still a chance that clean procs so that your mess up don't end up ruining it all.

I'm not saying that it is the reason why, just that it can't hurt to have something like a net every now and then.

[seekified]

Think of it as a fail safe, machinist has a lot to keep track on and that micromanagement can sometimes lead to messing up like accidentally pressing slug instead of split, if such thing happens there is still a chance that clean procs so that your mess up don't end up ruining it all.

I'm not saying that it is the reason why, just that it can't hurt to have something like a net every now and then.

Indeed. Personally I find the Split > Slug > Split > Clean > Slug > Clean method described in the OP is more interesting/fun than the standard 1-2-3. As the OP also states it makes no difference to pps either way.

[Brimcon]

So I'm noticing in the document that was linked earlier that it has a wildly different opener than what was posted originally. Is the 123123 better than 121323 when used in that way with the buffs? I understand having Raging Strikes and the like up before your first Hot Shot due to "Putting your Running Shoes On before you run, not during" Analogy, but the rest of it feels strange. Maybe I just need to practice it more.

[Griffeth]

So I'm noticing in the document that was linked earlier that it has a wildly different opener than what was posted originally. Is the 123123 better than 121323 when used in that way with the buffs? I understand having Raging Strikes and the like up before your first Hot Shot due to "Putting your Running Shoes On before you run, not during" Analogy, but the rest of it feels strange. Maybe I just need to practice it more.

The opener in the OP is out of date. We have come up with a new and improved opener that increases overall opening burst and wildfire damage. The old one was behind by a good 500ish dps easily.

Document updated with the patch 3.07 changes. You should be able to Quick Reload at the 8 second prepull and have it up for the same part of the rotation. Going to test it more when I get home.

Edit: In retrospect it would just end up giving the potency increase to Hot/Lead Shot instead, I'm sure there's a way to fit it in somehow.

With this pointed out (yay coffee not kicking in) We may not want to use it in the opener. Granted we dont really have a spot we can fit it into the opening burst (If we put it after Hot Shot and Lead Shot it will be outside of the WF window. Put it before the opener and it will only buff the first Hot Shot impact damage)

[RiisWolf]

Think of it as a fail safe, machinist has a lot to keep track on and that micromanagement can sometimes lead to messing up like accidentally pressing slug instead of split, if such thing happens there is still a chance that clean procs so that your mess up don't end up ruining it all.

I'm not saying that it is the reason why, just that it can't hurt to have something like a net every now and then.

I pretty much discovered it cause I just wanted to see slug shot's animation by just mashing it on the dummy. Neat that you can take advantage of this with ammo, still don't like it though.

[Myon88]

I pretty much discovered it cause I just wanted to see slug shot's animation by just mashing it on the dummy. Neat that you can take advantage of this with ammo, still don't like it though.

You could actually technically get higher Wildfire numbers by replacing our standard opener to capitalize on this. Shifting all the weaponskills one step forward in the cycle.

Split, Slug, Clean, Split, Slug, Split, Clean, Slug
with
Slug, Clean, Split, Slug, Split, Clean, Slug, Clean

Gives you 3 Clean Shots in a Wildfire, which is 20 more potency in the Wildfire at the cost of 40 less potency outside it, due to that first Slug Shot only hitting for 100 vs a 140'd Split Shot.

Not really worth it at all, but a nice gimmick.

[Greywolfamakir]

Split, Slug, Clean, Split, Slug, Split, Clean, Slug
with
Slug, Clean, Split, Slug, Split, Clean, Slug, Clean

I used to use second way, I mean:

Slug, Clean, Split, Slug, Split, Clean, Slug, Clean

But the last Clean is out of Wildfire, maybe EU lag, I don't know, but I'm using Rapid Fire after the first Clean getting 2 Splits with no casts, and just 1 oGCD between weaponskills. (after the last Slug, I use Quick Reload for 100% Clean.)

[Ryaz]

You could actually technically get higher Wildfire numbers by replacing our standard opener to capitalize on this. Shifting all the weaponskills one step forward in the cycle.

Split, Slug, Clean, Split, Slug, Split, Clean, Slug
with
Slug, Clean, Split, Slug, Split, Clean, Slug, Clean

Gives you 3 Clean Shots in a Wildfire, which is 20 more potency in the Wildfire at the cost of 40 less potency outside it, due to that first Slug Shot only hitting for 100 vs a 140'd Split Shot.

Not really worth it at all, but a nice gimmick.

Most of the Wildfire rotations I've seen don't use it until after the first Split Shot, which is what I've been doing.