Shots Fired: A Machinist Guide

[Judge_Xero]

If anyone is doing some Turret testing, pay special attention to Skill Speed. I know I said it looks like it doesn't effect attack speed, but after testing a bit on SMN pets, it could just be that it's such a small increase that it could be overlooked, so I wouldn't completely rule it out yet.

[Ryaz]

If anyone is doing some Turret testing, pay special attention to Skill Speed. I know I said it looks like it doesn't effect attack speed, but after testing a bit on SMN pets, it could just be that it's such a small increase that it could be overlooked, so I wouldn't completely rule it out yet.

According to tests earlier in the thread, skill speed doesn't affect turrets at all. It doesn't provide a damage increase either like spell speed does for summoner pets.

[Velhart]

I am debating with myself on what pieces I should get for my character next. I have bought the gun, body, and hands(for now). I see a lot of gear choices I have greatly drop my determination, possibly down below 400, but a much larger favor in Crit and naturally more DEX. You think it is worth dropping determination that low for crit or should I look at this from a different angle? Any feedback is appreciated.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...racter/869828/

[Judge_Xero]

I am debating with myself on what pieces I should get for my character next. I have bought the gun, body, and hands(for now). I see a lot of gear choices I have greatly drop my determination, possibly down below 400, but a much larger favor in Crit and naturally more DEX. You think it is worth dropping determination that low for crit or should I look at this from a different angle? Any feedback is appreciated.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...racter/869828/

Basically whatever gets you closer to this

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/R4J3

[Velhart]

Basically whatever gets you closer to this

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/R4J3

Yea that is the same BiS I have. More of the question was the gear I pick out -right now- and the following few weeks is going to bring my DET very low. Everything will fall in place -eventually-, but very low DET will be a thing for a while. How much will very low DET affect the process of getting to BiS is what I am trying to ask.

[Judge_Xero]

Yea that is the same BiS I have. More of the question was the gear I pick out -right now- and the following few weeks is going to bring my DET very low. Everything will fall in place -eventually-, but very low DET will be a thing for a while. How much will very low DET affect the process of getting to BiS is what I am trying to ask.

Not a whole lot since you are getting much more primary stats in return.

According to tests earlier in the thread, skill speed doesn't affect turrets at all. It doesn't provide a damage increase either like spell speed does for summoner pets.

Right....I'm the person who said that lol. Also, Spell Speed doesn't increase SMN pet damage, only frequency of attacks, which in turn increases their damage.

That's why I was mentioning, that SPD may be an increase for Turret frequency of attacks, but similar to SMN pets you may need a lot of SPD + test for a long duration to see any gains of note. (which I didn't do in my initial testing as I figured that the gains would be apparent with only a couple hundred SPD)

[zandervont]

been testing this opener in a3s, been getting 8,5k WFs without drg (top one being 9,1k):
quick reload to V
2s to pull
Gauss Round
hyper + b4b
hot shot
raging + eye
lead shot
rapid + pot
split
WF
slug
Rico
split
reassemble
clean
reload
slug
blank + graze
clean
quick
continue normal...

[Haxetc]

I just need 2 ammo to start in a3s. Found that if I pop reload late due to 5 ammo opener it won't be up the second time when I need it to be which is very iritating.

[Greywolfamakir]

been testing this opener in a3s, been getting 8,5k WFs without drg (top one being 9,1k):
quick reload to V
2s to pull
Gauss Round
hyper + b4b
hot shot
raging + eye
lead shot
rapid + pot
split
WF
slug
Rico
split
reassemble
clean
reload
slug
blank + graze
clean
quick
continue normal...

The first Clean Shot is losing 20 potency because no ammo up when You use it.
This clean shot is the highest hit of the opener, You should use it with Ammo.

[Ephier]

Did two parses,

First 745 skill speed, 55 autos from turret at 3:03



Second at 406 skill speed, 54 autos at 3:00




If I had allowed the second parse to go for another 3 seconds it would have done the 55th swing. Skill speed does nothing for turret attack frequency.