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    Nosifer Wokeuplikedis
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    Machinist Lv 60
    First, A huge thanks for this thread. Been reading for awhile and it's been incredibly helpful.

    So I'm one of the people that can't seem to produce the damage numbers that many machinists are getting, therefore...looking for some advice. I'm currently i181 with a Kai weapon and average somewhere between 820 and 860 on a dummy doing what I believe is textbook rotation. Granted, I might occasionally misuse a Quick Reload for something other than split shot or slug shot, but other than that I feel I'm hitting the marks like I should be. Based on the discussion here, this seems low for my gear level.

    Before I embarrass myself with math, I should first ask this..would not having Blood for Blood and Hawk's Eye explain my subpar numbers to the degree I'm seeing? Would knocking out those cross class abilities help me significantly, or should I troubleshoot my rotation first?

    Thanks a ton in advance gang.

    Nos
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    arctic's Avatar
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    Excel Kobayashi
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    Excalibur
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nosifer View Post
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    Blood for Blood - Increases damage dealt by 10% and damage suffered by 25% for 20s.
    Hawk's Eye -Increases Dexterity by 15% and guarantees that all attacks land.

    With an emphatic yes, not having these skills will hurt your over all performance.
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    Ryaz Darksbane
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by arctic View Post
    Blood for Blood - Increases damage dealt by 10% and damage suffered by 25% for 20s.
    Hawk's Eye -Increases Dexterity by 15% and guarantees that all attacks land.

    With an emphatic yes, not having these skills will hurt your over all performance.
    Agreed. Thankfully, I had a DRG already leveled, so I just had to level an Archer to 26 to get Hawk's Eye. Even that was somewhat painful, so I feel for anyone who has to go back and level things pretty high for a cross-class ability.
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    Raimund Blackthorne
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    Midgardsormr
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    Dark Knight Lv 50
    Hello, everyone! First let me say what a wonderful thread this is. I'm just starting out with MCH as my first ranged DPS/Support, and I have to say that I'm thoroughly enjoying the class. As someone who mains a WAR, I have to say that MCH is a fairly enjoyable change of pace, adjusting for no longer getting insta-queues. However, I do have a few questions that I hope someone can answer, and please excuse if they sound particularly newb-ish, I'm still getting the hang of the class, even at level 47. These questions are mostly for leveling purposes (so mostly field and dungeons), and don't really pertain to raid content, as of yet.

    1. Looking over my skills, I seem to notice that Slug and Clean Shot have the same base potency of 100, whereas Split has a potency of 140. Is it that much better to use Split Shot for the 140 potency instead of just using Slug and Clean Shot? It feels like I run out of TP too quickly even with my turret up, so would just using Slug -> Clean procs be better for base leveling content?

    2. Head Graze. I'm having a bit of difficulty with differentiating the Magic-based attacks over the monster skills, what's a good way to know what can be silenced and what can't, so I know that I'm not wasting my skill on an attack that won't be interrupted?

    Thank you for any answers and information that might be given to me, it's greatly appreciated!
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    Drowned Wednesday
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    Leviathan
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    Machinist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Nosifer View Post
    First, A huge thanks for this thread. Been reading for awhile and it's been incredibly helpful.

    So I'm one of the people that can't seem to produce the damage numbers that many machinists are getting, therefore...looking for some advice. I'm currently i181 with a Kai weapon and average somewhere between 820 and 860 on a dummy doing what I believe is textbook rotation. Granted, I might occasionally misuse a Quick Reload for something other than split shot or slug shot, but other than that I feel I'm hitting the marks like I should be. Based on the discussion here, this seems low for my gear level.

    Before I embarrass myself with math, I should first ask this..would not having Blood for Blood and Hawk's Eye explain my subpar numbers to the degree I'm seeing? Would knocking out those cross class abilities help me significantly, or should I troubleshoot my rotation first?

    Thanks a ton in advance gang.

    Nos
    Blood for Blood and Hawk's Eye would probably explain the subpar numbers. Get those and your damage should improve a lot, as a lot of damage comes from burst.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cascadi View Post
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    Welcome back!
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    Bard Lv 70
    I know I posted about it before but I'll be putting out a guide that will be done by Saturday. It'll go over almost everything. If you have questions that you'd like answered in the guide you can add me on Guildwork.com @ http://guildwork.com/users/haxetc and send me a PM. I want to try and cover all questions the community has. Also, if you watch it and have feedback on things that could be done different/better let me know. I'm open to any criticism, I promise.
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    Quip Rohlain
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    Cactuar
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Haxetc View Post
    I know I posted about it before but I'll be putting out a guide that will be done by Saturday. It'll go over almost everything. If you have questions that you'd like answered in the guide you can add me on Guildwork.com @ http://guildwork.com/users/haxetc and send me a PM. I want to try and cover all questions the community has. Also, if you watch it and have feedback on things that could be done different/better let me know. I'm open to any criticism, I promise.
    Seems I can't view unless we're friends. Sad face.
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    Xystel Unaki
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    Leviathan
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Shykrin View Post
    Seems I can't view unless we're friends. Sad face.
    His scheme to make friends is working!
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