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    Alberel's Avatar
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    Aug 2013
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Alberel Lindurst
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by MatthiasS View Post
    There is EVERY reason to ask. Who is hurt by it? The group that has to open a menu and press a button? If no one wants to do it, the kick won't happen. Do you have some desire to see people punished in some way for leaving content? They could pull their net cable/turn off their wi-fi just as easy. No penalty there.

    The game works best when everyone is having fun. If someone is feeling overwhelmed or hopeless in content, why attempt to force them to stay? If someone can't handle say, T9 (I know, but its an example), I'd rather they ask for kick. The fact they can then go run Dusk Vigil on another class affects me not at all.
    They aren't forced to stay. They can leave at any time and take the penalty. Disconnecting yourself to dodge the penalty doesn't achieve much either since being unable to play at all is worse than just leaving and being blocked from the DF for a few minutes. The penalty is there to discourage precisely these kinds of behaviour. If a player joins a group and finds they weren't prepared for it then they have wasted their group's time. The penalty will make them think twice about joining a group unprepared in future.

    There is also a major reason not to kick someone just because they ask for it: if they get replaced by a troll that you genuinely need to kick you won't be able to do so if it's on cooldown from pity-kicking someone else.

    Quote Originally Posted by Purrfectstorm View Post
    Because we're all playing a game to deal with stuff we don't want to deal with, makes a lot of sense. Maybe the other party members shouldn't make a player's experience "something they don't want to deal with" in the first place.
    Most of the time the things they 'don't want to deal with' are stupidly unreasonable and beyond the party's control. These players are simply being lazy or impatient.
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    Last edited by Alberel; 08-17-2015 at 01:15 PM.