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    Pr0c3ss0r's Avatar
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    Fenrir Ilax
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    Sargatanas
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Aldora View Post
    For the Paladin it's weakness is a lack of dealing AoE damage, but it gets a great defense in return. But, that specific kind of play style suits me perfectly.
    So i asked you >.>

    Quote Originally Posted by Pr0c3ss0r View Post
    On what you base that argument, i am curious? Flash is resisted, so don't even count on it to defend you. Compare to other class that can AoE DPS + leech HP, how PLD even match that? PLD have Clemency, how that is even possible to use against multi-target?

    Please elaborate your sentence, because i don't even see how PLD have greater defense against multi-target encounter.
    So once again, i ask you to elaborate... how PLD turn out to be MORE DEFENSIVE again Multi-Target while we have weaker AoE against them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aldora View Post
    I'm sorry, but "lack of AoE defense"? Now you are starting to grasp as straws and i'm finding it hard to take your comments seriously.
    Fine.. then you wont have any issue to explain me how PLD have better defense compare to WAR and DRK on multi-Enemy.

    Here to help you out to see my point:

    Quote Originally Posted by Pr0c3ss0r View Post
    Hallowed Ground is best Tank CD ever, but is 7 minute recast for a little 10 sec invincible. Sure that would be way superior if A2S had ONLY one massive wave to handle, but the fact is, A2S have 9~ Wave, and last 10 min long, so is good if you can use this once. (Unless you insist to use HG on the first 2 golin in the initial pull >.<)

    Now i don't know if you ever tght about it, WAR in defiance have 25% MORE HP and 20% healing bonus, is the same as having Shield Oath active. (Of course is not working for lustrate, but do we really care? WAR with 5 wrath get 10% Crit + Internal release = 20% + they base Crit Rate, pop berserk and hello 6 to 11k HP return with Equilibrium then hello 2~4k HP with Second Wind, and that is every ~1 min >.>

    So what else is left to compare?

    Sentinel(40% for 10 sec) = 3 min recast, can be use 3 time max in A2S
    Vengence(30% for 15 sec) = 2 min recast, can be use 5 time in A2S

    Rampart(20% for 20 sec) = 1 min 30 Recast, can be use 6.5 time in A2S
    Inner Beast (20% for 6 Sec) = 22.5 sec Recast, can be use 26x in A2S (And i am ignoring the FREE one you get every minute with Infuriate etc..)

    Raw Intuition (Parry 100% for 20 sec) = 1 min 30 recast, can be use 6.5 time in A2S
    Bulwark (Block increase by 60%... for 15 sec) = recast 3 min, can be use 3 time per A2S

    Hallowed Ground (Invincible for 10 sec) = Recast 7 min, can be use once per A2S
    Holmgang (HP can't go less than 1 HP for 6 sec) = Recast 3 min, can be use 3 time per A2S

    Storm's Path is yet another 10% reduction on single target.
    Rage of Halone, reduce STR by 10%, so is very similar by time monster is not magic.

    Thrill of Battle, increase HP by 20% for 20 sec. (every 2 min) [Restore 20% HP as well]
    There is Nothing like that on PLD.

    Equilibrium 6k to 11k HP return
    Clemency 100% interrupted against multi-target

    Second Wind 2~4k HP
    Stoneskin 100% interrupted against multi-target


    So ya, if you pay attention to this, you figure quick that PLD have for fact stronger CD, but the recast time penalize them by a lots, and if they are constant active tanking, they are quickly left with zero CD.
    Quote Originally Posted by Aldora View Post
    If you still believe that the Paladin is not suited for the job, then i'm really sorry, but i can't help you there. You can still give Dark Knight or Warrior a shot.
    Sure, that make sense, when a job is unbalanced/unsuited for new content, just stop play the job and move on till next content. Following you analogy on this, WAR would still be at 2.0 with no defense, sure we could all be trolling and say: "But WAR is not mean to mitigate dmg!"
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    Last edited by Pr0c3ss0r; 08-10-2015 at 10:21 AM.