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    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    Convalescence is also 30% boost in healing on a PLD, compared to 20% for DRK or WAR, except simply by virtue of being a WAR in Defiance, the WAR already has a base 20% boost to all healing taken.
    This is a very poor comparison to make as it completely ignores that both PLD and DRK in their respective tanking stances take less damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthas View Post
    This is a very poor comparison to make as it completely ignores that both PLD and DRK in their respective tanking stances take less damage.
    A WAR also has 25% more HP in their tank stance, and a stacking Parry buff. I'd say the two together equals the reduction in damage taken, even before the 20% boost in healing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    A WAR also has 25% more HP in their tank stance, and a stacking Parry buff. I'd say the two together equals the reduction in damage taken, even before the 20% boost in healing.
    Lolno. There's a reason why the healing boost was taken away from Wrath stacks and added to Defiance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthas View Post
    Lolno. There's a reason why the healing boost was taken away from Wrath stacks and added to Defiance.
    Not trying to be a troll here, but have you tried tanking anything at 60 yet? Because according to what I see, you're a 58 Warrior right now. I have all 3 tanks at 60, and haven't had problems tanking with any of them. You cannot judge the power of the tanks at ARR power levels. There have been too many adjustments to gear, stats, and abilities to go with what you know from 2.55.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    Not trying to be a troll here, but have you tried tanking anything at 60 yet? Because according to what I see, you're a 58 Warrior right now. I have all 3 tanks at 60, and haven't had problems tanking with any of them. You cannot judge the power of the tanks at ARR power levels. There have been too many adjustments to gear, stats, and abilities to go with what you know from 2.55.
    You're right, I haven't. But you'll also notice that I have been mostly avoiding talking about stuff like that but instead addressing the bad math being thrown around constantly.

    The parry buff from Wrath stacks doesn't come anywhere close to making up for the bonus healing of Defiance. For a lot of reasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    A WAR also has 25% more HP in their tank stance, and a stacking Parry buff. I'd say the two together equals the reduction in damage taken, even before the 20% boost in healing.
    Nope. The increased HP that WAR gets gives them identical eHP to PLD. The increased healing is only 20%, which means that WAR receives LESS healing in terms of eHP compared to PLD and DRK. Even if PLD didn't have the Convalescence trait, its Convalescence would still be more effective than WAR's. Defiance's parry is absolutely garbage.
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