Quote Originally Posted by Naelle View Post
I understand that people generally only show off their amazing parses, but where are they from the other Jobs? I've said it before, I don't want anything to be nerfed. I just want things to be balanced enough to allow any combination of Jobs to succeed.
But, the classes can and do succeed. The issue is that very few people are willing to try different combinations, and instead are insisting that only specific ones work, based on what other people who won't try different combinations are saying.

The balance issues among the tanks are nothing compared to those of healers and DPS. Its little problems being blown way out of proportion when the simple fact of the matter is that there will always be a best in certain areas. Many fixes people propose would just lead to bigger issues. Perfect balance can not be achieved without homogenization.

DRK can MT and OT just fine
PLD can MT and OT just fine
WAR can MT and OT just fine

This is what matters. None of the tanks will be kept from a position due to their class by anyone else but ignorant people you wouldn't want to raid with anyway.

All that arguing does is spread further ignorance on the subject and lead to self made issues. If, say, a PLD is kept from OTing, it likely won't be because they are bad for the role (which they are not), it will be because some ass hat complained that PLD cant do anything right and someone else took that as a fact rather than a misinformed opinion.

Quote Originally Posted by karateorangutang View Post
@Tila

Some interesting fixes have been suggested for pld. I'd be interested to take on a bigger support role. Buff cover for magic so it can help eat tank busters and boost healing potential. That would make it a good off tank and allow healers more dps time.

Lower slashing debuff to 5% and give it to all tanks and make it stackable.

There have been some great thoughts. Just not inn this thread lol.
Further boosting their support would just cause more bitching as PLD is in the same place as ARR BRD: people dont want to support, they want more damage. The majority of PLD bitching is centered around lack of damage.

Lower tank slashing debuff and you just made NIN a lot more needed, further upsetting the already shitty DPS balance.

If you just lower the slashing debuff even for NIN then you just nerfed NIN period.