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    Player
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    May 2012
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Kalos Ianei
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Blueskyy View Post
    For the sake of it lets count pot for all tanks ( single target In dps stance)
    Those numbers are useless like that. More to come.

    Combos
    Hard+Spin+Power = 670
    Hard+Syphon+Delirium = 680
    Hard+Syphon+souleater=660(820 w/ DA)

    PLD Combos
    Fast+Savage+Halone = 610
    Fast+Savage+Royal Authority = 690
    Fast+Riot+Goring = 600((920 actual)+600/minute from DoT)

    WAR Combos
    Butcher’s Block – 630
    Storm’s Eye – 610
    Storms’ Path – 590
    Fracture – 100((300 actual) +400/minute from DoT)
    Fell Cleave – 500(5 wrath)

    DRK oGCD
    Carve & Spit – 100/minute(450/minute w/ dark arts)
    Scourge – 500(1000/minute)
    Salted Earth – 525(700/minute)
    Plunge – 200(400/minute)
    Low Blow – 100(200+/minute)
    Total oGCD: 2400/minute+- low blow
    2760 w/ Darkside
    3163 w/ Darkside + Dark Arts

    PLD oGCD
    Spirits Within – 600/minute
    Circle of Scorn = 250/minute
    Sword Oath – 50/auto(1442/minute)
    Total oGCD: 900/minute(2342 counting bonus from autos)
    2811 w/ 10% avg Fight or Flight


    WAR oGCD
    Brutal Swing – 150/minute
    Total oGCD: 150/minute
    180 w/ Maim


    Roughly 24 GCD per minute

    Dark Knight
    This is iffy because it’s hard to say exactly how many times you’ll get to use Dark Arts
    Dark Arts+Souleater Only: 6560 potency/minute(7544 w/ Darkside) Not practical
    Delirium Combo Only: 5440 potency/minute(6256 w/ Darkside)
    Half & Half: 6000 potency/minute(4 dark arts used, 6900 w/ Darkside) - Most similar to actual

    Paladin
    2 Goring + 6 Royal: 5980 potency/minute(6578 w/ FoF)
    Note: Starting another Goring instead of Royal will result in higher overall potency, but not upfront

    Warrior
    3 Storm’s Eye + 4 Butcher’s + 2.4 Fell Cleave + 2 Fracture: 6150 potency/minute(7380 w/ Maim)
    Wonky math, very rough overestimate

    DRKTotal Potency Per Minute
    8400 Base
    10063 w/ 5 Dark Arts + Darkside

    PLD Total Potency Per Minute
    8322 Base
    9389 w/ FoF

    WAR Total Potency Per Minute
    6150
    7380 w/ Maim
    If we consider Berserk a 50% damage bonus up for 22% of the time that comes to 8198 potency/minute. I have no idea how close that estimate is for Berserk.(Berserk estimate is very likely wrong)

    Using these numbers and PLD as base tank potency...

    Unbuffed
    PLD 100%
    DRK 100.9%
    WAR 73.9%

    With Buffs
    PLD 100%
    DRK 107%(aftermath- 109.8% if you count Bloodweapon)
    WAR 87.3%(Berserk estimate is very likely wrong)

    This does not include TP issues, breaks in fights, etc that will raise the value of Berserk & Fight or Flight. Just a pure 60 second potency estimate based on buff averages.

    -edited for slip in WAR combo estimates & again because WAR math
    -edit this does not count WAR crit rate either

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaith View Post
    Even with them all getting slashing debuff, there's still a gap between the 3.

    And is it really fair to assume slashing debuff for all three? WAR is going to be in a composition with it available 100% of the time (WAR/WAR, WAR/PLD, WAR/DRK). PLD and DRK will only be in a group that has it available 33% of the time (PLD/WAR, PLD/DRK, PLD/PLD or DRK/WAR, DRK/PLD, DRK/DRK). And that also assumes both tanks are always on the same mob.

    The difference between the damage output of a WAR/DRK or WAR/WAR composition and PLD/DRK composition could be anywhere between 30-50%.
    That's not how parties work. You will bring a WAR if you are worried about damage taken or dealt. No ifs, ands, or buts.
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    Last edited by Disc; 08-03-2015 at 07:20 AM.