Connecting the DoTs: A Summoner Guide

[OneWingedSora]

Too bad World first cleared it with DRK, WAR, SCH, WHM, NIN, DRG, BRD, BLM. They went for the highest DPS comp. Even if you bane the adds. Your DoTs won't apply fully. They just die too fast. BLM seems to have the edge in A3S and it won't surprise me if BLM have the edge on A4S because there is adds. You'll most-likely have to focus legs 1 by 1 and since there's not much movement BLM just feels better. BLM is also a better choice when you get dragged to kill that add with a tank because your DoTs won't apply fully again.

Well, maybe because they just don't have any good Summoners or their caster cant play both jobs ? I've already tested both on A3S and Summoner was at worse, on par with BLM.

And no, the adds don't die "too fast" you will still get atleast 3 ticks per add, and you ignored the part about deathflaring/painflaring them. And Sleigh brought up some good points as well about final phase as well as having to LB which takes a huge dip on BLM's DPS.

So far, most people that say BLM has the edge over SMN on A3S either can't really fully maximize SMN's potential or haven't seen the entirety of the fight. Or both.

[Aikaal]

Well, maybe because they just don't have any good Summoners or their caster cant play both jobs ?

You are talking to a gorup that race changed to BiS main stats because they were at 0.5% before the maintenance. They've tried with SMN, don't worry.

Also, saying to a group of elite players they are bad when they claimed 2 World First is a really bad argument I feel.

[OneWingedSora]

You are talking to a gorup that race changed to BiS main stats because they were at 0.5% before the maintenance. They've tried with SMN, don't worry.

I've also seen some of their SMN parses and none of them were impressive.

[Sleigh]

I think once the dust settles and more and more groups clear, we'll get to see some numbers. Possibly stilted because BLM does do better in add phase (which is on a timer, but is also a DPS check in our gear so it is relevant presently), but we'll see then.

[OneWingedSora]

Whoa whoa whoa, no need to get offensive here, he's not in that group.

I think once the dust settles and more and more groups clear, we'll get to see some numbers. Possibly stilted because BLM does do better in add phase (which is on a timer, but is also a DPS check in our gear so it is relevant presently), but we'll see then.

How was I getting offensive lol. My post wasn't aimed towards Aikaal.

[Sleigh]

How was I getting offensive lol. My post wasn't aimed towards Aikaal.

Oh I read that as "your," whoops. Will edit.

[OneWingedSora]

Also, saying to a group of elite players they are bad when they claimed 2 World First is a really bad argument I feel.

Banging your head against the wall for 18 hours a day doesn't really mean much to me. Not to mention I never really said they are bad, I just said maybe their main group's caster doesn't/cant really maximize SMN to it's full potential. Don't put words into my mouth.

[Aikaal]

Banging your head against the wall for 18 hours a day doesn't really mean much to me. Not to mention I never really said they are bad, I just said maybe their main group's caster doesn't/cant really maximize SMN to it's full potential. Don't put words into my mouth.

Unfortunately raiding those hours is how you get world first. A3S was gear gated and they got it down to 0.5%. The way you are phrasing this is their world first caster is bad because he couldn't do it as SMN and you are simply better summoner than him. You don't even know the guy. This is team over individual plays. They went as far a race changing to get more stats. They tried everything and their final comp had a BLM.

We can say the same for A2S except the DPS check is not that crazy. Summoner is superior by every aspect but you can clear with a BLM. It's just easier with SMN for A2S and I'm pretty sure it's with this concept they went BLM for this turn. I went Summoner for this turn only because my team requested it. There is no me, myself and I. I changed for the team.

I'd rather not attack you personally but it does feel like you think you are better than this anyone in Elysium.

When you say things like :

I've also seen some of their SMN parses and none of them were impressive.

This is kinda a sign of arrogance. Personal performances is only one aspect of the player. It's clear to me that BLM provides better for that fight. It's not only about the caster but the whole group.

[OneWingedSora]

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You are putting words into my mouth again. I never said their caster is bad, I just said maybe he's a better BLM than he is a SMN. That doesn't mean he is bad, not everyone can play multiple jobs perfectly, that is fine.

I guess you will change your mind once I clear this on SMN and provide parses.