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    Rero Rero
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    Alchemist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Sleigh View Post
    No sir, I never record. Probably wouldn't be pretty, I'm pretty sure I lost an Aethertrail somewhere in tornado phase or something so I kinda fell behind there.
    http://gfycat.com/BestFarawayBluewhale
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    OneWingedSora's Avatar
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    Mala Liath
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by boring View Post
    Hahaa, this was posted on Milo's stream before. What a hero.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aikaal View Post
    Congrats!

    I'm not sure if you had a Bard or not. I know another gorup in my server cleared with a SMN and he was less than 1k DPS with a Bard.

    I got 1.1k on my side and I could have done more I messed up few times near the end and my bard did die so I lost some Foe. Overall, the clear is what matter xD

    How are you enjoying A4S :P
    I am pretty sure his group doesn't run a bard or a ninja so 1k is actually quite fantastic.I just wanted to see his PoV to know how his DPS dropped from 1.3k to 900 on add phase :O
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    Last edited by OneWingedSora; 08-10-2015 at 03:25 AM.
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    yeah otherwise ur leaving AA stacks wasted. I tridisaster bane when they spawn close to each other then painflare on tornado phase, usually just miasma spam with bio/ruin2 or even ruin 3. Btw bind works there so if you want to tribind on a mass of them until stun lol although it's a waste of a gcd
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    OneWingedSora's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minorinz View Post
    yeah otherwise ur leaving AA stacks wasted. I tridisaster bane when they spawn close to each other then painflare on tornado phase, usually just miasma spam with bio/ruin2 or even ruin 3. Btw bind works there so if you want to tribind on a mass of them until stun lol although it's a waste of a gcd
    I am pretty sure bind doesn't work there. I tried before with {Freeze} and it didn't work.
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    Philia Felice
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    Gilgamesh
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Yeah me too, Blizzard 2 from my part. Didn't work. Maybe one type can be bound and the other can't but I didn't care to find out.
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    I don't mind double checking for this with tri-bind. I'll ask the bard to test shadow bind although they said there is no point in using it since everything is getting hit. It would be weird to let all detrimental effects you inflict 100% possible except bind then again it may be too op or something.
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    Aikaal Leyma
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    Summoner Lv 90
    They can't be bind. What you can do is
    Slow - Lethargy, Blizzard 1, Miasma, Miasma II, Stone
    Stun
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aikaal View Post
    They can't be bind. What you can do is
    Slow - Lethargy, Blizzard 1, Miasma, Miasma II, Stone
    Stun
    I'm pretty sure silence should work too even though I don't have it as a smn and yeah since all of u used bliz/freeze to find out i'll take ur word for it but just cause i'm curious to why i thought they froze ima still test it for myself again.
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    Silence/stun both interrupt the Forrest Gump cast bar, yeah.
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Sleigh's:
    B2 > M > B > Swift + Fester > Shadowflare > Rouse + Spur > R2 > Pot > R2 > RS + Pain > R2 > Fester + DWT > R2 > Enkindle + Aether > R2 > 3D > R2 > Fester > R3 > R2 > Deathflare
    ** I've been using a slightly modified version of this that I feel has been giving me the most return.
    So I've tried this, using fester before DWT won't let you get another fester especially with a 15 sec pot which means you have to fester as you enter DWT and the pot duration needs to be higher than 10 secs. Realistically this opener is great for not clipping but I still feel it's lacking in terms of maximum dps burst. As soon as you have your pot pop'd you literally have 15 secs until deathflare and there are 2 R2s before DWT is activated, so that's 2 GCDs off the DWT buff timer. I can't comprehend the loss no matter how many times I try. Maybe you can give me some insight, please?

    Avalen's:
    Bio II -> Miasma -> Bio -> Swiftcast + Fester > Shadowflare -> Rouse/Spur > Ruin II > Ruin II > Raging Strikes + PainFlare -> Ruin II -> X-Pot + Fester / DWT -> Ruin II -> Tri - Disaster + Enkindle -> Ruin II -> Aetherflow +Contagion -> Ruin III -> Ruin III -> Ruin II -> Fester -> Deathflare -> Ruin II -> Shadowflare ->....
    Now avalen's one is somewhat better for me because the pot is activated as DWT goes off so DWT duration is almost matching the Pot's with only one fester. This opener is realistic and I can kind of comprehend it. The alignment of CDs is flowing nicely.

    The opener I've decided to go with even though I feel it can improve:

    Bio 2 -> Miasma -> Bio -> Painflare -> Fester -> R2 -> Swiftcast -> Rouse -> Shadowflare -> Spur -> Raging -> R2 -> Painflare -> Aetherflow -> R2 -> Pot -> R2 [Bio is dropping] -> Enkindle [delay] -> DWT -> Tri-D -> Fester [10-11 secs left on pot] -> R3 -> R3 -> R3/R2 -> Fester [1-2 secs left on pot] -> Deathflare [before pot ends]

    Now what I want is to squeeze 2 festers in my raging (20)+pot (15) +DWT (15) because it's that good especially when it crits, also I get more time to R3s. I want to setup a timeline for this opener to enhance the efficiency. Contagion can be squeezed anywhere because it can be activated during a GCD of Ruin 3. My best burst was a crit on festers 5K and one 7k crit on deathflare without a pot/food or a nin. i189 with the i200 weapon. Any suggestions/advice? :c
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