Connecting the DoTs: A Summoner Guide

[Mature]

A1S

I think I did ok, but I can go higher I think, lost a deathflare towards the end. ilvl184.

I'm at 186 and I'm pushing to 1300k+ dps. Are you using trance followed by tri disaster + miasma 2 ? That's where the big dpsing comes from mainly!

[OneWingedSora]

I'm at 186 and I'm pushing to 1300k+ dps. Are you using trance followed by tri disaster + miasma 2 ? That's where the big dpsing comes from mainly!

Link to parse, please. I am guessing you are probably talking about regular A1 or Faust.

Anyways, here's my parse: no nin/brd and killed right after third jump :<


http://i62.tinypic.com/2rdcak9.jpg

[Havenchild]

I'm at 186 and I'm pushing to 1300k+ dps. Are you using trance followed by tri disaster + miasma 2 ? That's where the big dpsing comes from mainly!

Yeah I do all that. Are you talking about your actual clear unmerged with downtime included? Because that's pretty high. If that's a merged parse I would definitely believe it. ( If you have your parser set to 30 seconds or less, it will break up the encounter when they jump)
Although I wouldn't say it's impossible with enough Foe's. My BRD doesnt even get to FoEs except maybe in the beginning but the rest of the fight all that MP goes purely to the healers with ballad.

As for Faust, I'm usually at 1250ish, on him alone. As for the overall fight, if there was anything I'm generally losing DPS on, it's in that add phase. I use DWT to burn down my add which I feel is....not optimal?

[Judge_Xero]

I use DWT to burn down my add which I feel is....not optimal?

Considering optimal, I've wanted to attempt Death Flare and/or Pain Flare just as the melee picks up their add, to hit my add, 0.5 and the melee's add.

Also.... I'm not sure what context Mature means for Miasma II (it appears single target during DWT), but if you're in DWT then R3 is always a better choice. (same 120 Potency, less MP, guaranteed)

Anyone tried Garuda vs Ifrit A1/A2/A3?

A1, IDK I'm thinking Ifrit might be able to take it even with the multi-DoTing (personally I think Contagion is only useful in multi-DoT situations where you can Bane off it), and with how the bosses don't seem to take DoT damage during the jump so Contagion can lose some of its power. Garuda's going to lose less attacks due to jumps, and can more readily help with adds. Anyone try out Ifrit? Looks like a wash to me.

A2, Contagion is very very useful, but not for every wave - even if it's up, some waves are just too dang short for Contagioned DoTs. I think the big thing here is the MP saving with Garuda is worth so much, and the 5 stack + Contagion + Bane can't really be messed with. Then again, Radiant Shield is STRONG here. Gonna say Garuda is champ here.

A3, I'm actually thinking Ifrit. Radiant Shield works on 6-8 targets multiple times, and otherwise 2 targets in the split add part. In add phase, while Ifrit has travel time, it also is your only stun, and a free stun is a free stun in that phase. Not to mention on the Hand of Pain part, Ifrit's going to do more. Gonna guess Ifrit is the way to go, I was using Garuda before but aside from getting a potentially Contagioned Bane off in the split add part there's not that much encounter-specific use for Garuda I think.

A1 - I like Garuda for setting up Dots on both bosses prior to adds coming out (1 set Contagioned seems to give more dot up time while dealing with your add), as well as the ranged damage for helping with adds.

A2 - Pretty much what you said. If/when the adds start dying faster then Ifrit will be king.

A3 - I like Garuda during the adds, just because SMN is so gimp for that part. (Ifrit runs to add, melee kills add, Ifrit returns to you part way before going to where you command him, next add dies etc)

Does Ifrit's Radiant Shield really proc much on that fight? A lot of it seems Magical.

[Sleigh]

Does Ifrit's Radiant Shield really proc much on that fight? A lot of it seems Magical.

Just the pimp smacks, but if you time it you can get two pimp smacks in a row for X16 reflects.

[Havenchild]

Considering optimal, I've wanted to attempt Death Flare and/or Pain Flare just as the melee picks up their add, to hit my add, 0.5 and the melee's add.

I've did this before, but I started to feel like I was losing more damage trying to recast DoTs on my add and killing it with Ruin II spam. Not to mention the damage you lose just to kill something sooner and your DoTs don't go for full duration. At the same time, if something happens that potentially kills your add ahead of time like a DoT before its positioned, that's another issue. You can certainly get off a Bane and Painflare though. That's usually what get's me my third stack of Aetherial for DWT sooner after.

[OneWingedSora]

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Unfortunately, my melees complain if I bane the adds since they have to hold back on their add which would be a DPS loss for them. Sometimes I might sneak in an Aerial Slash or Enkindle but that's about it. Also, you can take your add next to the boss, hit it with a Deathflare to hit both your add+boss, then take it back to the missile point. I usually pull my add with Painflare(which fills up my Alteration stacks) which hits both my add and the 0.5 , go into DWT, reapply buffed DoTs on the Add+Opressor+0.5(which should be falling off at this point) and then just finish off the add with R2s.

[Mature]

Link to parse, please. I am guessing you are probably talking about regular A1 or Faust.

Anyways, here's my parse: no nin/brd and killed right after third jump :<


http://i62.tinypic.com/2rdcak9.jpg

Sorry I'm on Ps4 my friends usually do the parsing for the group. And it's savage boss on Faust is the same. Just wondering where your dps is.

[OneWingedSora]

Sorry I'm on Ps4 my friends usually do the parsing for the group. And it's savage boss on Faust is the same. Just wondering where your dps is.

Sorry I have a hard time believing that ;-; unless maybe it's a merged parse ? Which doesn't count for the downtime so it would be more believable.

My DPS on Faust is 1.65-1.8k but it's mostly padding due to shadowflares/deathflares hitting the adds.

[pandabearcat]

ACT does not have a "damage done per target" split?

That is surprising. Its basic Recount functionality.