Getting refused to EX groups as a DRK

[TouchandFeel]

What I really wish (although I doubt they'd consider it) was to change abyssal drain to a strong single target, GCD move that costs only mana. Something we could work into our rotation without much (if any) DPS loss.

Right now unleash & abyssal drain are both serving the same function as "big aoe threat move". I don't think we really need them both. I would much rather unleash worked just like abyssal drain does currently (MP, damage, dark arts) except you'd also have the free procs from unmend. I don't see what having both of them is doing for us.

Bonus points for giving it some kind of useful debuff for raid utility.

But it's sort of a drastic change, I doubt that sort of thing would be on the table.

I don't know about making Abyssal Drain a single target ability or even if it should be kept at all under the situation you outlined. Maybe keep it with your changes, maybe get rid of it to free up another ability slot for something more needed, honestly haven't gotten to that point in my thought process yet.

However, I definitely agree about the unnecessary redundancy with Abyssal and Unleashed. As you suggested, they should really just condense them down into a single ability. Regular Unleashed works as is, DA+Unleashed works like DA+Abyssal. That would help streamline their ability set a bit and I feel that they could definitely use more of that.

[Giantbane]

I don't know about making Abyssal Drain a single target ability or even if it should be kept at all under the situation you outlined. Maybe keep it with your changes, maybe get rid of it to free up another ability slot for something more needed, honestly haven't gotten to that point in my thought process yet.

However, I definitely agree about the unnecessary redundancy with Abyssal and Unleashed. As you suggested, they should really just condense them down into a single ability. Regular Unleashed works as is, DA+Unleashed works like DA+Abyssal. That would help streamline their ability set a bit and I feel that they could definitely use more of that.

I like the targetting from abyssal, but just because it's different than what PLD & WAR have. Nice to have unique touches between the classes like that.

[TouchandFeel]

I like the targetting from abyssal, but just because it's different than what PLD & WAR have. Nice to have unique touches between the classes like that.

I was actually thinking about the targeting differences while I was typing the quoted response. If they did condense them into one ability, they should just use the Abyssal targeting format where it is a PbAoE on your target.