Hopefully Alexander/Savage will be 24 mans.

[Musashidon]

It is /not/ real raiding. It is more like a Squad, down to the point of your a specialized group designed to go in and take down high level creatures with a small group.

it's a raid. like i said this has been played to death. but continue

[Sapphic]

Not changing any content. Adding. Carried lol..that's cute it made me laugh.

Just look back any time you did the 24 person content and watch how many do the bare minimum. They are only able to do that because theres numbers for them to be a drop in an ocean. They won't have that in 8 person Alex even if it is the same difficulty as WoD.

[ArmorKing]

I hate to suggest it, but what about a normal and hard mode version?

The hard mode could have a pretty restrictive iLevel requirement to get in, along with x number of normal mode clears to gain access. Idk.

[Slappah]

it's a raid. like i said this has been played to death. but continue

So much this...

The devs brand it a raid, it's a raid. No outside definition means anything. They deem what is what, and that's just how it is.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

So much this...

The devs brand it a raid, it's a raid. No outside definition means anything. They deem what is what, and that's just how it is.

A terribile dragon attacks you. <3

[AdamFyi]

I never asked for 8 man content to be removed. I want more dynamic content to the game and more content. Not just one type, indeed 8 mans are not for me. However that doesn't mean I want them gone or removed.

You did kind of imply that you want it removed, however.

8 man content is exclusive, and only a few percent of the server could do it. That is very bad, and breeds a ton of elitism which I even see in the thread.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

You did kind of imply that you want it removed, however.

I'm mostly implying asking for more content, I will imply that seeking less is counterproductive.

[LTEvil]

I'm mostly implying asking for more content, I will imply that seeking less is counterproductive.

More content is always positive, we probably should make a more detailed post about this however. yes?
To avoid things like what happened to Selli. People are far too touchy for outright arguing on this forum. Should maybe make a long detailed post about how it would be put to task.

As you can see Adam is a prime example of the type of person I was talking about. Not sure why it is hard to simply say something offends you. When people say report I think "I need an adult." I always get a chuckle out of it. Sorry you are offended.

[AdamFyi]

I'm mostly implying asking for more content, I will imply that seeking less is counterproductive.

No, you have to understand that others have differing perspectives and opinions. Your post implies the removal of 8-man raids for the sole purpose of, "breeds a ton of elitism," and not even considering those who actually like it. Just because someone doesn't agree with you, doesn't mean it's the end of the world, m'kay?

Personally, they would be better off leaving 24-man raids as they are now and stick them in the DF. Sure, more content would be nice, but you have to balance it around the idea that some may get left out, or some may not be able to participate due to lack of numbers. Not something a lot of people would like, I'd wager. Especially of the tediousness of getting that large amount of players to commit to a schedule.

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Edit:

People are far too touchy for outright arguing on this forum.

Others are free to agree or disagree; but under no circumstances should you ever berate them for having a different opinion. There wasn't much of an argument since it was mostly people agreeing or disagreeing. Then this post came along and sparked an argument:

If your 8 man has drama. Get a better 8 man. (Snip)

Although it probably wasn't in your intentions, it was taken wrongly due to the wording you used. This can be considered harassment and is by all means reportable as it is against the rules (to which I have already reported). So, please, watch what you say before posting anything.

[Ashkendor]

They are already developing the 8 man. However I am asking the harder version to be 24-man. =)

You do realize that the hard mode/savage Alexander is probably all but finished at this point right? They're implementing it a couple of weeks after the normal mode/story Alexander goes in. Making it 24 man at this point... yeah no. Not gonna happen. They'd basically have to scrap everything except the graphics work.

24 man raids in general... no thanks. It would be a logistical nightmare. The Year of the Pug would dawn in Eorzea because good luck to the average player putting together a 24 man static (maybe up to 30 if you want to have some alternates to fill in for no-shows). Contrary to what you said earlier, a 24 man raiding static wouldn't make a lot of us any more likely to take someone with no experience, at least not if the rest of the party has already progressed. It wouldn't make us less likely to kick someone that was repeatedly screwing up either, because that person is holding everyone else back. It would just make it more of a pain in the ass to 1) recruit skilled players and 2) replace players that aren't as skilled as they initially claimed. I honestly think it would make the endgame community even more insular than it already is, and pugs would still be out in the cold looking for a way in.

It would also make it more of a pain in the ass to learn outside of static because 24 man learning party. Even having 8 random players that are all new to a fight can make it feel like you're herding cats. 24 would be even less productive. This game is aimed at a more casual playerbase, and 24 man statics are most definitely not casual.