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  1. #1861
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    Also is there a cap on the dmg modifier we can have? with everything we can get up to 1.631 modifier (B4B+GL3+TwinSnakes+DK+Fist of Fire), which seems high!
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    cross posting from a "Meditation sound is annoying" thread:

    MY SOLUTION: gain a Chakra stack for every ability used that would grant greased lightning AFTER you have your 3 stacks. the stacks don't fall off, and Forbidden Chakra gets a potency buff. 400 maybe. this would be an effective way to use the abilities in most boss encounters, AND would promote good management of GL stacks and form shift when running around in the open world, as most mobs won't take long enough to kill to actually get Chakra stacks unless you chain them together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by w153m4n View Post
    Anyone mind testing these 2 openers inGame? can lose the xpots for testing purpose.

    Just looking at potency per second, the TK opener isnt worth it. Top is my opener, bottom TK. These values are ignoring crits & xpot & fists of fire.
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    Last edited by scx; 06-24-2015 at 06:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scx View Post
    Form Shift (coeurl)> Demolish > (Perfect Balance)> Snap Punch > (Blood for Blood)> Snap Punch > (Internal Release) > Dragon Kick > (xpot) > Twin Snakes > (Elixir Field) > Snap Punch > (Howling Fist) > Touch of Death > (Steel Peak) > Bootshine > (Shoulder Tackle) > True Strike > (the Forbidden Chakra) > Demolish
    what if you do snap first instead of demolish, and demolish instead of last snap? that demolish will be fully buffed with IR/BfB/XPot. and it will be out earlier than your fully buffed demo in your updated rotation. or is there something i'm not seeing that makes it bad?
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  5. #1865
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    Quote Originally Posted by scx View Post

    Just looking at potency per second, the TK opener isnt worth it. Top is my opener, bottom TK. These values are ignoring crits & xpot & fists of fire.
    Sweet! Thank for this.
    Although, you applied the full dmg of Demo and TOD at the start of applications in this spreadsheet. I purposely left out TOD and also, put Snap instead of Demo in my 9th GCD there as otherwise, Demo is clipped and I can't delay it since I want to be able to get to DK as quickly as I can.
    My spreadsheet has GCD timer counter and then separate DOT counter (every 3s) for the dot ticks.
    That being said I did measure based on potencies only, so maybe yours one will end up higher still pps-wise.
    (which makes me sad!)
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    Last edited by w153m4n; 06-24-2015 at 06:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by w153m4n View Post
    Sweet! Thank for this.
    Although, you applied the full dmg of Demo and TOD at the start of applications in this spreadsheet. I purposely left out TOD and also, put Snap instead of Demo in my 9th GCD there as otherwise, Demo is clipped and I can't delay it since I want to be able to get to DK as quickly as I can.
    Yup, it's just a model showing the applied potencies not a real pps simulation. ( I also included DK in the dot potency which i just noticed ._.")
    Also I did not include auto attacks, which will deal reduced damage for a good 7 seconds. That's a lot in an only 22 seconds long opener.
    I know it's tempting to include TK, but I've given up at this point :P

    As for in-game testing, last time I tried a TK opener it ended up at around 900 dps, but I don't remember what gear I had. My opener was already 1k+ at that point.
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    Last edited by scx; 06-24-2015 at 06:59 PM.

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    btw here's another question (have to do with the game design), when you use Tornado Kick, does your GCD timer suddenly resets to the default no-GL state?
    See it was on GL3 GCD after the last Snap Punch, so you would see it starting the cooldown. Now TK is oGCD, does it mean after you use it your timer suddenly slows down slightly during the recharge?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scx View Post
    As for in-game testing, last time I tried a TK opener it ended up at around 900 dps, but I don't remember what gear I had. My opener was already 1k+ at that point.
    Thanks again!
    Now let's start petitioning so TK gets buffed
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    So been working hard here. I just want to finalize from what scx have posted, that TK in PB opener is a dpS lost. That's a bummer. So what's the optimal rotation as opener can we agree on. So far Scx is taking the lead. Scx can you repost your opener again plZ.


    Also what's your ilvl and your secondary stat like. Also are we focusing on det stat still or has it change?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Butcherboy View Post
    So been working hard here. I just want to finalize from what scx have posted, that TK in PB opener is a dpS lost. That's a bummer. So what's the optimal rotation as opener can we agree on. So far Scx is taking the lead. Scx can you repost your opener again plZ.


    Also what's your ilvl and your secondary stat like. Also are we focusing on det stat still or has it change?
    Stat weights are still an unknown. As of right now it's just a take what you can get. As more of us get to 60 and start getting the gear we'll get a clearer picture of the standing. It looks like the changes they made were an attempt to put them much closer to each other, but only time will tell on that.
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