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    Zamii's Avatar
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    Zami Terrechant
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    Tonberry
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    learn boss % for phase transitions, watch cast bars, its honestly not that difficult if you do both of those things to know the exact moment a boss will jump.
    also, you would need to do a full rotation, and even then its still a slight dps gain overall, you seem to be underestimating just how powerful tornado kick really is.
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    Louis Victor
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    Tonberry
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Zamii View Post
    learn boss % for phase transitions, watch cast bars, its honestly not that difficult if you do both of those things to know the exact moment a boss will jump.
    also, you would need to do a full rotation, and even then its still a slight dps gain overall, you seem to be underestimating just how powerful tornado kick really is.
    err yeah i know when they jump, im just wondering if i squeeze in 1 more weaponskill and do the tornado and tornado does the damage while the boss is in the air, if it counts.
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    Cierre Mhakaracca
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    Shiva
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    How do you macro Chakra? I find that /wait 1.5 doesnt work, it seems the macro system only uses full seconds? Its basically the same as /wait 2 which means it takes significantly longer to get 5 stacks up.

    Also, on the same note, do you use Fracture at all anymore? Or switch it for the Lancers Parry buff for dangerous moments?
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    Synestra Randgris
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Niyuka View Post
    How do you macro Chakra? I find that /wait 1.5 doesnt work, it seems the macro system only uses full seconds? Its basically the same as /wait 2 which means it takes significantly longer to get 5 stacks up.

    Also, on the same note, do you use Fracture at all anymore? Or switch it for the Lancers Parry buff for dangerous moments?
    dont know about the macro since i don't use them for monk, but regarding fracture - yes, absolutely. while doing your rotation normally, since demo duration was increased, there will be occasions where it lines up perfectly to use fracture. you will have 3-4 seconds left on demo, use fracture, and then demo, and everything feels smooth as butter.
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    Vinceau Olorah
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    Leviathan
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    Dont use a macro. Done
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    Ossom Possom
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    Armorer Lv 53
    The new monk rotation is a little similar to the old dragon rotation, Treating Demo as the half points of each rotation. You need to either Fracture or ToD once inbetween the applying Demos or else you will end up either clipping your Demo or having it fall off.

    So Opener (Demo is applied in opener) > ... ToD ... > Demo > ... Facture ... > Demo > ... ToD ... > Demo. This will stop you from Clipping Demo, but it will be a TP drain. The thing is though that if you do this, the fracture should be a decent Dps upgrade as it is a 220 potency attack, and it allows you to get the last 1-2 ticks out of a Demo.

    For Ravana, there should be a lot of parts of the fight to use Tornado Kick.

    1st Tornado Kick should during Prelude to Liberation Cast.

    2nd Tornado Kick should be at the end of Add phase.

    3rd Tornado Kick should be during the Sword Number Mechanic.

    4th Tornado Kick should be double preys.

    Shouldn't have TP issues in this fight so you should get a Forbidden Chakra off :

    1st. During Prelude to Liberation cast.

    2nd. Liberation Cast.

    3rd. Warlord Shell/Add Phase.

    4th. After Swords

    5th. After Double Prey

    IIRC this should be right.
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    Kuroyasha Tenshi
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    Ninja Lv 70
    what exactly is the best monk opener now?
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    Naesala L'arachel
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    Odin
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroyasha View Post
    what exactly is the best monk opener now?
    I don't think anyone decided yet, but at the same time the opener is negligible in most fights anyway. You can start with Demo-(PB)-whatever: either a "normal" opener with an extra high potency hit during PB or all finishers with TK in the middle. Or a standard PB opener that we've always used.


    I would be surprised if it's a 50 potency difference between all the openers...
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    Jess Victorix
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroyasha View Post
    what exactly is the best monk opener now?
    The Opener i have been using seems to work quite well for me so far with a 1400+ burst at ilvl 175 + 190 hive claws
    Form Shift - Couerl - (Shoulder tackle) - Demo - (PB) - Snap - (BFB) - Snap - (Drac str pot) - Twin - (IR) - DK - (Steel peak) - Snap - (Elixer/Howling) - Tod - (Forbidden chakra) - Boot - true - Fracture - Demo

    Just did 1 full run at 3mins 58 secs till i ran dry on tp and pulled 1150 i messed up abit near end so maybe i can do more?! lol
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    Last edited by Victorixvii; 07-04-2015 at 11:41 AM.

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    Butta Stackz
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    Midgardsormr
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Victorixvii View Post
    The Opener i have been using seems to work quite well for me so far with a 1400+ burst at ilvl 175 + 190 hive claws
    Form Shift - Couerl - (Shoulder tackle) - Demo - (PB) - Snap - (BFB) - Snap - (Drac str pot) - Twin - (IR) - DK - (Steel peak) - Snap - (Elixer/Howling) - Tod - (Forbidden chakra) - Boot - true - Fracture - Demo

    Just did 1 full run at 3mins 58 secs till i ran dry on tp and pulled 1150 i messed up abit near end so maybe i can do more?! lol
    Wait a minute? You are able to use ToD right after PB falls off and still maintain GL3? Furthermore your adding a Frecture before refreshing GL3??? How much skill speed do you have? I wanna call bs on that but i'm not 60 yet so i cant comment (vid plz).

    Ever since the changes made to demolish (and apparently all coeurl moves) i have not been able to do my old opener (ToD after PB) as the timing is too tight.
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    Last edited by PROBOUND; 07-07-2015 at 01:04 AM.

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