RIP Ninja

[Viridiana]

That's incorrect. Current NIN does competitive dps with only one positional. Proof that it's possible.

/sigh. . .

You realize I'm on your side, right? At least, you seem to be on the side of "would rather not have positionals on NIN." Am I misunderstanding you? Because my post to Kaze was that starting in HW, positionals will be truly required in the same way that combos are currently required.

[Adire]

/sigh. . .

You realize I'm on your side, right? At least, you seem to be on the side of "would rather not have positionals on NIN." Am I misunderstanding you? Because my post to Kaze was that starting in HW, positionals will be truly required in the same way that combos are currently required.

I've seen some of your previous posts, you do seem to be on the same side as me judging by those. I think I got the wrong idea from your post there though. I apologize. I will explain the idea I got from your post if you wish, though I think it was the wrong one of the two meanings I got from it.

Edit: I will go ahead and explain. The first idea I got from your post was that you seemed to be saying that positionals are essentially a necessary evil to add to NIN as bonus damage to keep it competitive in DPS.

The second idea that I got after reading it again was that you were saying that a NIN will have to use positionals that are added in order to keep up competitive DPS, and that not using them will result in subpar DPS. I'm guessing the second meaning I got from your post is correct, yes?

[Viridiana]

I've seen some of your previous posts, you do seem to be on the same side as me judging by those. I think I got the wrong idea from your post there though. I apologize. I will explain the idea I got from your post if you wish, though I think it was the wrong one of the two meanings I got from it.

lol, no problem.

Basically, once positionals are added, they're not so much "positional bonuses" as they are "positional requirements" with penalties for missing them. I mean, one could try to say that TA has a "positional bonus" for attacking from behind, but considering that the difference between hitting the positional and not is basically the difference in just not using a ninjutsu for that 20 seconds, it's really more of a requirement. Once you have positionals, hitting all the positionals (or at least the vast majority) becomes the standard by which the class is balanced and judged. Same as how you don't balance DRG off of the guy who stands next to the tank spamming uncombo'd Full Thrust and not using any CDs. >_>

[Adire]

lol, no problem.

Basically, once positionals are added, they're not so much "positional bonuses" as they are "positional requirements" with penalties for missing them. I mean, one could try to say that TA has a "positional bonus" for attacking from behind, but considering that the difference between hitting the positional and not is basically the difference in just not using a ninjutsu for that 20 seconds, it's really more of a requirement. Once you have positionals, hitting all the positionals (or at least the vast majority) becomes the standard by which the class is balanced and judged. Same as how you don't balance DRG off of the guy who stands next to the tank spamming uncombo'd Full Thrust and not using any CDs. >_>

We're in agreement then