RIP Ninja

[Kiroh]

SE took the one thing that was so horribly broken about DRG they had to remove it from most all of their skills...and added them to NIN instead. I hope all you ninjas out there like dancing, because you're going to be doing a lot of it in HW.

[Ultimatecalibur]

SE took the one thing that was so horribly broken about DRG they had to remove it from most all of their skills...and added them to NIN instead. I hope all you ninjas out there like dancing, because you're going to be doing a lot of it in HW.

I doubt that they will be "must meet" conditions and be closer to "bonus on top" conditions like the Monk has and Dragoon was changed to.

[Kiroh]

I doubt that they will be "must meet" conditions and be closer to "bonus on top" conditions like the Monk has and Dragoon was changed to.

Actually the only skills that have any positional left on them at all for DRG are heavy thrust and chaos thrust, the others were outright removed.

[Allyrion]

Actually the only skills that have any positional left on them at all for DRG are heavy thrust and chaos thrust, the others were outright removed.

They only had those 2 positionals in the first place!

[Bloody]

They only had those 2 positionals in the first place!

Wrong, originally the entire Impulse Drive -> Disembowel -> Chaos Thrust chain had a positional requirement on each move, and Heavy Thrust also had a positional requirement rather than a bonus.

[Eidolon]

Wrong, originally the entire Impulse Drive -> Disembowel -> Chaos Thrust chain had a positional requirement on each move, and Heavy Thrust also had a positional requirement rather than a bonus.

No, the original was that impulse drive had to land a hit from behind to chain I to the other two (but disembowel/chaos could be from anywhere)

And that heavy thrust worked like current trick attack - had to land the positional to take effect...

[Allyrion]

Wrong, originally the entire Impulse Drive -> Disembowel -> Chaos Thrust chain had a positional requirement on each move, and Heavy Thrust also had a positional requirement rather than a bonus.

Oh, there was Impulse Drive.
Disembowel never had a positional.
Chaos Thrust didn't either, but they added a bonus to it.

[Ultimatecalibur]

Actually the only skills that have any positional left on them at all for DRG are heavy thrust and chaos thrust, the others were outright removed.

Impulse Drive and Heavy Thrust were the only ones that originally had positional requirements. Heavy Thrust was changed so that the hitting flanks was not required to get the buff or give Ring of Thorns the combo bonus. Impulse Drive's positional was moved to Chaos Thrust. Dragoon's still have the same number of positional requirements.

[ChaozK]

Impulse Drive and Heavy Thrust were the only ones that originally had positional requirements. Heavy Thrust was changed so that the hitting flanks was not required to get the buff or give Ring of Thorns the combo bonus.

You actually still need to hit the flank for it to trigger ring of thorns' bonus for some reason. Maybe they forgot about it.

On topic: I am absolutely positive that NINs positions will work like MNKs or DRGs new system, rather than the old one. Having positionals per se is not a problem, when it prevents you from using your weapon skills, it is, which was the reason why they changed it for DRG.

[Myrhn]

You dont NEED to do the positional but you will do more dmg doing them so is basically like mnk and drg.