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    Player Ceodore's Avatar
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    Ulf Hednasch
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    Famfrit
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Adire View Post
    ... If someone is making demands of me, I am not going to silently bow down to them. If he had asked nicely? I'd gladly give him what he wanted, as I've said oh so many times if you would take a moment to actually read.
    I have read, and what essentially you are saying is that just because he was rude, you were rude back. Way to put out the fire with more lighter fluid Einstein. /sarcasm

    Then, after you were rude right back, you proceeded to tell them how to play their class. As if anyone is going to listen to someone who is also rude.

    Quote Originally Posted by Adire View Post
    Second, I never in this entire thread claimed to be an unnaturally skilled tank. I am skilled, that much I will say, but nowhere have I said that I am superior to most players at tanking. Please do not put words into my mouth. Also, what does the fact that I haven't played WAR much have to do with anything? WAR is a tank, PLD is a tank, I have a good understanding of the role that both fill. I don't have to play WAR to know how to tank..
    Quote Originally Posted by Adire View Post
    In any profession, the authority on a field is going to have superior weight behind their opinion in that field than other people. Does that mean they have more value than other people as a person overall? No!
    You allude to being an authority in the field of tanking and that your opinion in that field has more weight than other people's opinion in that field. Then, you proceed to contradict that statement by saying your opinion has no more value. So which is it? Does your opinion have more weight in the field of tanking just because you're a tank, or does it not have as much value as someone else's? If you claim to be an authority, then you should know all the aspects of the role. Next time, claim to be an authority in being a Paladin, since Paladins and Warriors have different capabilities and thus handle situations and fights differently sometimes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Adire View Post
    Third, please read. I offered compromise, they responded with "nope, we're doing it our way 100%", yet I am on a high horse....? I am really getting tired of repeating this. If you aren't willing to be informed about this topic, please do not bother posting without at least admitting that you are uninformed.
    Compromise on a request for a full clear? Lol. The whole point of full clear is to kill everything. There is no compromising to be made without it then not being a full clear. Congrats on being uninformed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Adire View Post
    Fourth, we asked during the first pull's fight. I hadn't gone out of the way to collect mobs because I didn't want to get blasted by the Eye's AoE while fighting the non-optional packs. I wanted to clear them out (especially since no one was AoEing) before gathering the rest, and was taking a moment to figure out how to react to his demands. Just because I didn't immediately respond to them with words doesn't mean I was being "stubborn". I was doing my job first, and talking second, and was going to go back and get the mobs if he had a change of attitude or agreed to AoE so the dungeon wouldn't take a painfully long time if I went back to get the mobs had he agreed. And I won't lie....I was speechless for a bit after the initial attitude he had.

    I was a rebel by pulling the non-optional mobs first when he wanted me to get us all blasted by the eye so that he could get his exp immediately, rather than later. And I was a rebel by asking him to compromise rather than give him 100% what he wanted and sacrifice what we wanted.
    If you had a problem with his attitude, then using words first would be smarter. Before the first big pull, you could have said "Okay, but let's clear the main hall way first, then go back for the leftovers. Please be sure to use your AOEs when we get them all gathered" instead of pretending you're Stoic the Silent Mute. A run goes better when everyone is on the same page and understands one another, especially when you're dealing with lower level players who may not know yet that 100 potency when used on 10 mobs is worth more than 300 on one mob. Also, the eye's AOE doesn't reach into the side halls. You could have pulled all the mobs up to one side hall together, then the next, and so on. Someone needs to study their dungeons it sounds like, if they are such an authority.

    Quote Originally Posted by Adire View Post
    And really...there comes a point when a little bit of rebellion is justified. Are you honestly saying it wouldn't irk you if someone demanded that you be their slave?

    You are being extremely hostile and judgmental of me for someone who is not being referred to by my OP. Perhaps you should take a look at your own attitude.
    You have no idea what hostile is if you think that's how I am acting. Judgmental, yes, definitely. Because the way you handled the situation for someone who seems to believe they are the leader is unbecoming of any leader. Responding against rudeness with being rude. Demanding respect without giving it. Commanding change after demonstrating inability to change. You have all the same signs of some of the worst sergeants I have ever worked under. Learn to be a gentleman or woman, respect the wishes of others to garner respect from them, and change your plan of attack to better suit those you are commanding and better suit the situation they wish to be in. This would have gone a lot smoother and a lot more friendlier if you had talked first and explained your plan, as well as what you need them to do, than just charging in. So, again, lack of planning on your part possibly compounded by a lack of communication as well as a possible lack of experience on theirs resulted in everyone having a bad time, and you going into the forums and complaining about your privilege as a tank.
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    Last edited by Ceodore; 05-03-2015 at 01:52 PM.