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    Beck Eldrin
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    Quote Originally Posted by lololink View Post
    They are more realistic than Alphinaud and they are right (and Alphinaud realized that, he must play by the rules if he wants to win, the world isn't all pink), they can't just ask their soldiers to stop what they were doing ( fighting beast tribes and protecting the city ) to help someone that never helped them when they wanted them to, they did send help, not a lot sure, but they did, the scene where they all congratulates each others for the battle of Ishgard is just politics, it's outrageous of course but at least they try to do their best for their people.
    I agree. I found Alph's indignant attitude frankly annoying. Easy for him to be critical when he's not responsible for an entire nation. Especially given Ishgard's prior "neutrality". Trying to sell your citizens and soldiers on being the bigger person would be very difficult to put it mildly.
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    Anyone else find it weird that they didnt show us any CS with Alisaie in it? We just heard from other people what she did?
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  3. #43
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    lololink's Avatar
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    Nel Artux
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuinceTaru View Post
    Anyone else find it weird that they didnt show us any CS with Alisaie in it? We just heard from other people what she did?
    She doesn't do much actually, there are already tons of CS, no need to add some that are barely useful.
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  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuinceTaru View Post
    Anyone else find it weird that they didnt show us any CS with Alisaie in it? We just heard from other people what she did?
    Haven't seen it for myself yet,
    but I know she gets a new outfit after FCoB,

    so they probably don't want to spoil the end of the Coil story just yet. If she does show up in the expansion, though, we can assume then that the Coil storyline is being handled like the Culinarian quest. Maybe.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    Perhaps there may be more to this chaos than meets the eye, and more than just a selfish Lalafell's machinations.
    Pretty sure the reason we're going to Ishgard was established as "this was all timed far too conveniently to be a coincidence." Ascians everywhere.
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    Last edited by Fenral; 04-01-2015 at 09:07 AM.

  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrustie View Post
    I agree. I found Alph's indignant attitude frankly annoying. Easy for him to be critical when he's not responsible for an entire nation. Especially given Ishgard's prior "neutrality". Trying to sell your citizens and soldiers on being the bigger person would be very difficult to put it mildly.
    And yet Limsa was all too ready to run to the Scions and Warrior of Light, on their knees begging for salvation from the wrath of the beast tribes they themselves antagonized.
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  6. #46
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    Dee Aenu
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    About the Nation Leaders
    not intervening at the Party it's pretty much because they can't, this was another Nations matter.
    It was pretty obvious that they REALLY wanted to though but it would have ended with a national Incident which they can't allow currently with the Empire breathing down their Neck ... which doesn't mean that they won't in the future

    There is one thing that makes me think though ...
    in the After Credits scene where the Sultanas former Handmaiden tells him everything is in order Lolorito did not look happy, if everything is in order why would he be unhappy? I do have some Ideas though ...
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    Last edited by DasFelix; 04-01-2015 at 09:08 AM.

  7. #47
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    Tonrak Totorak
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    It was said that the "ambient aetheric energy" has decreased. Pure speculation, but I wonder if they're slowly activating Omega?
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  8. #48
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    A civil war is coming to ul'dah it's not going to be good to him, he didn't manage to capture the WoL and he possibly acted too fast, he may have wanted to get his hands on Omega first ( or was it teledji that was looking for Omega ?) Anyway the future isn't bright for him.

    The aether decrease was just Odin no ?
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  9. #49
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    Wouldn't be so sure about Urianger. There is a LOT of double-speak. Look at the dialogue, carefully:

    Urianger: I have answered thy summons, Emissary. Speak and make thine intent known.
    Elidibus: I would speak of fate, Archon. Yours, mine─the fate of this very star.


    And then consider the following:

    • Elidibus in FF:T has the power to summon Zodiark.
    • "Star" is very ambiguous. It can mean they are currently standing within/on a star (a literal darkstar's core or a dark crystal in the aetheric realm) and it can also relate to a handful of other things; one being ourselves. A literal "star in the darkness" (the "one remaining light") or the "star of the show".
    • Moenbryda means "Moon Bride". Pitch black night, darkness and moons often share a very strong connection. Zodiark IS the darkness.


    Also:

    I'm sorry, but the sudden "suggestion" that we go to Ishgard when we have nothing left (where we have been shown by omniscient narrator a quite possibly possessed Holy See awaits us), added to the fact her all too-convenient absence and the heaped emphasis on number talent, the shady farewell and over-shoulder smirk, covert book-keeping and general wanton betrayal from all sides ... Tataru is looking guilty as all hells.

    Midgardsormr: Heh heh heh. Thou thinkest sanctuary lieth beyond?
    Midgardsormr: Delusion. Despair. Death. Thou shalt find naught else here.
    (6)

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    Anony Moose
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    Quote Originally Posted by Applesnap View Post
    Star" is very ambiguous.
    For what it's worth, FFXIV often uses the term star instead of the word planet because many on Hydaelyn don't really comprehend what a planet is in comparison to the lights in the sky. For all they know, each one is a world of Light holding against the Darkness.

    Quote Originally Posted by Imperial Centurion
    Thou art alone. One amongst many. The land is alone. One star in the void.
    (6)
    "I shall refrain from making any further wild claims until such time as I have evidence."
    – Y'shtola

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