Thread: Revelations from Patch 2.55 [SPOILERS]

Originally Posted by Sayora

RT is interesting. The Brass Blade in the tavern knows you're innocent and the Crystal Brave just kind of has a panic attack when he sees you.

Well, there's also the fact that Revenant's Toll is populated by a demographic group that is pretty well-known by the locals as master assassins, anyone that touches you will pretty much disappear. I think the reason why they sent so many people after you and the Scions the first night is that they knew that the moment word gets out, you'll be essentially untouchable after the initial confusion dies down.

One of the major determinants of the success of a coup is the initial momentum; during the first night, no one knew what was happening, other than the people actively involved. The Rising Stones is the headquarters of the Crystal Braves, no one would question groups of Braves moving into and out of the facility. Once the rest of RT knew what happened, it's the Crystal Braves and the Brass Blades that are the 'prisoners' in RT.

Originally Posted by myahele

They're probably using the unconsciousness-due-to-poisoning trope.

Gods help Square Enix if they reveal that this punch in the emotional crotch was a Disney Death all along. I know, I said the same thing about Louisoix when it looked like they would undo his sacrifice and the emotional memories of the End of an Era CG (and I think SE toed that line masterfully, in the end, really). Still, IMHO, it's super poor form to ruin the impact of an ending after it's been established.

The Scions can easily be alive without ruining the impact of 2.55 - their "deaths" were clearly maybe, maybe not, stay tuned. Similarly, having a death come out of nowhere and be undone middle to climax or climax to resolution is a forgivable use of tropes (especially if well-crafted), but SE took full advantage of saturating the whole ending with her death and its impact - going back on it by combining Disney Death, Death is Cheap, and Only Mostly Dead to undo the Version 2 resolution long after reaping the benefits of our FEELZ would be ham-handed, IMHO. I had very different hopes for Nanamo, myself, and I'm quite sad to see that it doesn't look like they're going to manifest... but isn't that what makes it so tragic? Isn't that what makes it so memorable?

I'm not saying that it definitely is not the case that Nanamo is just suffering from Juliet Syndrome, but...

After all the people out there right now praising the dev. team's boldness, I can only imagine the backlash, lol.

Originally Posted by myahele

Lol I am reminded that there's a new character on the scene: Pipin. And apperantly there's a theory that he's also a secret royal member.

Game of Thrones Spoilers for Season 4 and an all-but-confirmed character ending theory

Confidential excerpt from a Dev. Team meeting PowerPoint presentation:
2.5 will to close with Nanamo pulling a Reverse-Joffrey, but unbeknownst to the Monetarists, Pipin is actually in a Jon Snow situation.

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Originally Posted by Viridiana

He certainly seems feal to Zodiark, but not necessarily to the other Ascians. <...>I wonder if he isn't taking a roundabout way of strengthening our ability with the Echo.

I think a few things are (almost) beyond doubt by this point.
[1] Elidibus thinks he's doing what's best for this planet.
[2] Lahabrea is going way, way off-script.

The second coming of Zodiark requires massive chaos, and at first Lahabrea is like, "Well, the primals can surely accomplish that!" But ever since then he's been nurturing the ever loving hells out of this pet project of putting the power of the Divine in the hands of man. Not only that, but his rampage at the end of Praetorium sounded just like Elidibus' exposition. I don't think either of them are on-the-level with the overlords from the other world(s).

Elidibus, despite claiming that he feels he is not our enemy and that his goals are in contrast to those of the "dark princes," is still adamant that Zodiark's will is above all else. What are he and Lahabrea playing at that goes against the others, yet requires reminding Lahabrea that his side-project can't become priority over The Mission, and still considers Zodiark the Truth? This part is still [Requires More Information], because we don't quite know how "this whole world, it's lands, it's people, everything" will change "to the way they once were and always should have been."

Immediately after 2.55, I had a whimsical thought - what if the whole point is to call Zodiark so his power can overcome whatever has bound this planet to the Cycle of the Eras, but then immediately turn on him and the other Ascians and use a man-made God to strike him down, as well? Would that not free our world (the world in which both Elidibus and Lahabrea originated) from binary light and darkness and stop the cycle? Of course, the theory is very fragile and probably quite wrong (especially just because Elidibus seems so fanatically devoted). It also doesn't even begin to address the "everything will change" aspect. I'll keep it in the back of my mind and adjust it to something worth our time if I find support for it.

I don't think Urianger has turned on us, either. I think he was just as surprised as we were to be invited to entreat with Elidibus. I think the time has just finally come to reach out to "our side" for some role in their endgame. Still, it's nice to see SE capitalizing on his awkwardness to make us doubt his loyalties and origins, again. Now the people who didn't play 1.0 know how that feels, lol.