Thread: Revelations from Patch 2.55 [SPOILERS]

That place where the Ascians gathered....their wording makes me think it's not Ishgard, due to how they referred to the Northlands as though they weren't there yet. I wonder if it could be under Ul'dah? It does resemble the gaol that Raubahn was in.

Also....why didn't Nidhogg show up at the siege? I thought it was rather strange at the time, like he might be related somehow to the unfolding plot with the Crystal Braves. Then again, I was disappointed no Dark Knights, Astrologians, or Machinists were showcased at the Steps of Faith.

Originally Posted by TheWaywardWind

Also, as a Gridanian, I'm disgusted with the direction that Merylwyb and Ken-E-Senna took. Raubahn has his god damned arm sliced off, and all they can do is watch over with horror as Ul'dah is over thrown, their friend mercileslly beaten, and the warrior of light thrown in chains while the scions are placed under arrest? What the hell?

I'm not really happy with anything the GC leaders have done this patch. First, declaring that their national borders being secure now is more important than keeping a renewed Garlean threat from seizing Coerthas, then insultingly acting like they made a grand contribution to the defence, then those two leaving without comment during the coup. The only worthwhile thing I saw any of them do was when Raubahn finally lost it and killed one scheming bastard and trying to kill another.

Meanwhile, I'm still trying to piece together Minfilia and Urianger's actions. . .

Originally Posted by PotatoTree

Also, was Laurentius one of the betrayers? I only saw Yuyuhase and Illberd as ones I recognize. Was Alianne one of the betrayers? She wrote the note that made you go to drybone, as indicated by Momodi. Was Alianne part of Yuyuhase's team? (the forth or 1st or something).

Two options I see for Alianne. One is that she was reluctantly in on it. I trust Momodi to know when someone's being torn up about something, so if she was in on it I think it was weighing on her. Alternately, and what I personally think, she genuinely wanted to meet us, perhaps foreseeing the coming storm, but was waylaid by the traitors.

Originally Posted by TheWaywardWind

I don't know who I'm fed up with more now, Ishgard for being a bunch of hypocrites or Gridania and Limsa for being a bunch of cowards.

As a Gridanian, I feel very similar. I didn't think it would be in Kan-E's character to haphazardly throw some Conjurer spells around in that moment, but to walk away entirely...very mixed feeling about it. Still, I know both her and Mer were outnumbered largely and they just saw the Charging Bull disabled...I can't imagine them jumping into the fray especially when they kept mentioning their own countries coming first from that conversation.


And speaking about that conversation, it made be wonder why Gridania is even bothering with the territory battle outside the twelveswood at all. 'We don't want to send help cause then that lalafell jerk is gonna take the territories.' Kan-E, girl, Gridania is the closest city state to Ishgard. If the shiz is about the hit the fan up there, Gridania may be next. I was shocked we weren't on board with that defense.

Overall very happy with the direction of the story though. Very much looking forward to what Heavensward will bring.

Moose, I'm surprised you didn't pick up on the quest that had us escorting that scholar. The readings he was getting all around South Shroud had him in a panic as something looks to be draining the aether there. I don't think a quest like that was random filler JUST to discover Wilred... I feel they were hinting at something there.

I was considering the possibility that Hydaelyn may have drained a large amount of aether from Eorzea in order to recover her strength. It would coincide well with her sudden message to Minfillia.

I think both Kan-E and Merylwyb were being smart at the "celebration". They did seem like they wanted to do something to help the Scions (and the dialog with the GCs afterwards seems to reinforce that), but *knew* they either could not do anything meaningful or anything they did besides leave would only make things worse; if they did something, its highly likely they would have been arrested or killed right there, leaving their own homes in chaos. Even saying something could have made things really bad for them. Leaving ASAP was the best course of action.
What really surprised me about this part was...there really *was* a Dravanian attack going on at that point. I was so sure that those Temple Knights were just more traitors...and it turns out they really were there to get their commander back home.

I'm also wondering about this...I would expect Momodi to have some idea what could have been in that bottle. That she had no idea means one of a few things to me: the liquid was so rare that she couldn't recognize it (or...maybe wasn't a poison after all...), it wasn't actually the bottle used to hold the poison (which then leads to Alainne possibly being a traitor too, planting the bottle on you to be claimed to be the assassination weapon later.), or she was possibly in on this as well. Personally, I think she just really didn't know what was in it (or didn't really look, knowing you were *really* pressed for time now) and thought you'd see Alainne to ask her soon.
As an aside...I am suspicious of Tataru. Not quite the same "ok, the Crystal Braves are BAD news" suspicion of 2.3, but still. Things aren't adding up with her and it can't be just coincidence that she was the only one to get out of the Rising Stones alive at this point...

Also...why did we get arrested so...quietly? I'm sure we would have known that we wouldn't be just sitting in a gaol waiting to be rescued, we'd be executed as soon as possible to make sure we couldn't let the truth get out or get rescued and really oppose them. Even the random Crystal Brave in Mor Dhona is terrified of you...why couldn't we have fought until subdued? We just killed an enormous dragon...what is a few random soldiers to me?


As for the aid to Ishgard earlier...well, if I were being petitioned aid from someone who has completely ignored me when I really could have used their help only recently, besides all the other isolationist stuff they've been doing...I'd be reluctant to send more aid than a token force as well. When Merylwyb said her city comes first, then the alliance, then everyone else...she's being 100% right. They all need to look after their own first, then their friends, then everyone else. And with them being besieged by beastmen and Garleans even now, on top of their own individual issues...helping someone who refused to help you isn't a priority.