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    Revelations from Patch 2.55 [SPOILERS]

    Don't forget to be courteous and keep unmarked spoilers and rampant discussion about new events in here while the first few waves go about their progress! But, the time has come! Let's get down to business!

    There's not much new to add to the world-lore, but let's start with three now-knowns:

    The Son of Midgardsormr

    Nidhogg is a son of Midgardsormr and the one who is rousing the others to war. The dragon seen landing on the bridge does not seem to be one of Midgardsormr's children, however. Instead, Vishap is referred to as one of Nidhogg's greatest champions.

    Raubahn's Adopted Son
    The adopted lalafell Pipin Tarupin has glorious hair, a bull-horns helmet, and just as much honor as Raubahn.

    Mechanic Limitations
    By current indications, the time bubble still seems to be a thing. Plot armor, not so much. Content seems to go in order of patch release (though not necessarily level). So, for instance, there's now evidence supporting the assumption that, despite their discrete lines, The Binding Coil of Bahamut happens before Syrcus Tower, and Syrcus Tower happens before The Final Coil of Bahamut. For further clarity, the battle with Ramuh would have taken place at the same time as Syrcus Tower and the Second Coil of Bahamut. Despite this there's yet to be any evidence to make claims that time movement accompanies time passage.


    Scenario Developments (DO YOU REALLY WANT TO READ THIS BEFORE DOING IT YOURSELF? Advice: No. No, you don't.)
    Ishgard
    Iceheart brings down the outer layer of Ishgard's defenses and the Dravanians attack. She, too, seeks the Eye on behalf of Nidhogg. Aware of their hypocrisy, Ishgard humbly reaches out for aid, only the Scions reply. After the great dragon Vishap is driven off, a feast is announced, to be held in Ul'dah, where it is to be officially declared that Ishgard will rejoin the Eorzean Alliance.

    The Traitors in the Ranks
    The suspected traitors to the Crystal Braves were until now varied, ranging from Yuyuhase, devout lover of coin, Ilberd, who lost so much to gain too little too late, and various sellswords that have been given second chances to along the way. Simplified, it's pretty much all of them, paid off by various shell companies owned by the Mirage Trust.

    Revolution
    Teledji makes his move - Nanamo Ul Namo is assassinated (poisoned). With the Brass Blades and Crystal Braves in his employ, Teledji publicly accuses the Scions, revealing the Echo and spinning it as sorcery, alleging an intricate plot to overthrow the realm. Enraged, Raubahn eviscerates Teledji, but loses his left arm to Ilberd. Lolorito capitalizes politically, coming out of the debacle with the most gained and the least lost.

    To buy time for escape, Yda, Papalymo, Thancred, and Y'shtola stay behind to fight pursuers and suffer fates that imply death (but perhaps are not, leaving the door open for a return). At the last moment, Hydaelyn reaches out to Minfilia and she, too, stays behind. Only the Warrior of Light escapes, leaving the same way they came - alone, in a chocobo-drawn carriage.

    Asylum
    We have few precious allies left; the carriage merchant brothers, Cid, Alphi and Ali, Tataru, House Fortemps, and the Domans. For now, we'll seek shelter in Ishgard, whose inhospitable nature will play to our advantage for once.

    Ascians
    Post-credits, Lahabrea and Elidibus discuss the death of Nabriales (and that the ardor "was not his" to invoke), and then the idea of moving northward to presumably continue meddling with gods and chaos. Lahabra slips up and refers to the plan as "my will," Elidibus corrects him that it's, "His will." After Lahabrea takes leave, Urianger arrives and says that he's answered the Emissary's summons - Elidibus says he'd like to discuss the fate of this planet. Interpretation of all of the above is pretty open.
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    I have yet to lay waste to Vishap so for now I'll refrain from talking and suggesting up but there was one detail that kind of bugged me so far.

    Aymeric at some point calls to his side the current Azure Dragoon of ishgard, which to my surprise was none other than Estinien, whom if you did the last dragoon quests tells you there is nothing to fear of him as he is not here to fight you...

    Alright, I'm fine with that, the guy is fair and sport, problem is... That guy got blasted to hell in the last drg quest for heavens' sake! He literally got burned to crisp by yours truly the warrior of light when he was about to call for Nidhogg's powers and yet comes out of the blue like it never happened.
    I could had understand if he pulled the usual "you thought I was dead but nope, I manage to survive/dodge/godly teleport back then!" But nope, not even that.

    Aside from that point, all seems good so far
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phyllo View Post
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    He wasn't killed during the DRG 50 quest your journal says that he simply disappeared. I'm more confused because he should be locked up in a gaol as he stole The Eye. Also, Alberic's dialogue wasn't updated to say that he came back to Ishgard it still says "There are no dragoons in Ishgard"(paraphrased) so either he doesn't know he's back or they simply forgot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lilirulu View Post
    He wasn't killed during the DRG 50 quest your journal says that he simply disappeared. I'm more confused because he should be locked up in a gaol as he stole The Eye. Also, Alberic's dialogue wasn't updated to say that he came back to Ishgard it still says "There are no dragoons in Ishgard"(paraphrased) so either he doesn't know he's back or they simply forgot.
    If I recall, the entire Dragoon quest chain was done covertly, only the player and Alberic knew what he did, and the latter took pains to ensure that no one else knew about Estinien going rogue. Even among those that knew, he's still the Azure Dragoon of Ishgard, unless they can find a acceptable replacement, they'll take him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LystAP View Post
    If I recall, the entire Dragoon quest chain was done covertly, only the player and Alberic knew what he did, and the latter took pains to ensure that no one else knew about Estinien going rogue. Even among those that knew, he's still the Azure Dragoon of Ishgard, unless they can find a acceptable replacement, they'll take him.
    This is what I recall too. Alberic even stressed that he wanted all of this to be kept quiet to avoid an uproar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lilirulu View Post
    He wasn't killed during the DRG 50 quest your journal says that he simply disappeared. I'm more confused because he should be locked up in a gaol as he stole The Eye. Also, Alberic's dialogue wasn't updated to say that he came back to Ishgard it still says "There are no dragoons in Ishgard"(paraphrased) so either he doesn't know he's back or they simply forgot.

    It would actually work (theortically) into the story of the dragoon class if he never mentioned encoutering you and that your "dragoon story quest" (yes even if you took it as your first) happens AFTER this whole deal with isgard and somehow work in into the current story of the eye being stolen by him. BUT..... since he mentioned that about you that means he already stole it and they are acting like it never happned or that he didnt try to use more of the dragons powers losing him mind....

    Dammit, at least im not the only one to notice this.


    Omg I just saw this in the story and now am pissed. How could they let this fall threw the cracks of the story. He stole the freaking eye and they were aware of it in the dragoon story but yet here he is.
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    Seeing a certain adopted lala in a realm reborn was a pleasant surprise.
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    "A learned warrior who uses Arithmeticks to analyze natural phenomena and pinpoint magickal attacks."

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    Quote Originally Posted by D-Gold View Post
    Seeing a certain adopted lala in a realm reborn was a pleasant surprise.
    Was he in 1.0 or something? I didn't recognize him at all but very much enjoyed his presence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emerald_Wyvern View Post
    Was he in 1.0 or something? I didn't recognize him at all but very much enjoyed his presence.
    he is mentioned here.
    http://www.finalfantasyxiv.com/anniv...?rgn=eu&lng=en
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    "A learned warrior who uses Arithmeticks to analyze natural phenomena and pinpoint magickal attacks."

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    Is that so? Must have missed that detail then, thanks for correcting me
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