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  1. #231
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    RayneBoemir's Avatar
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    Rhotitar Bhaldeyrasyn
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    No thank you
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  2. #232
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    Not interested.
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  3. #233
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    Jandor's Avatar
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    Tal Young
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    this systeme often come from free to play, indeed wildstar have try to do this, but let's face it, the game will soon go in free to play then...
    this systeme have only work with one game Eve online. by the way, do you really think they need to do this actually? i doubt it. people simply want to play for free and forget that a mmorpg need cash for be developped, like have said yoshida the advantage of the monthly fee allow them to be able to predict them budget for the developpement, where the free to play or freemium can't know how many cash will enter for the month. then it's harder to devellop content or even maintain a team dedicated to that. no the free to play, freemium or creed/plex system is a very bad choice and must be used only when the game will die. if you can't afford the price of the sub from FF14, you must'nt play it first. because let's face it, the price of the subs is really low. (one of the lowest ever see for a mmorpg of this quality)

    ps: and if you only want an easy way to grabs gils by using your real cash, maybe you must reconsider how you play to a mmorpg....
    I haven't actually said I'm in favour of this idea in FFXIV. I play Eve online though and I see a lot of people using Eve as an example in this thread so I added my 2 cents.

    As far as PLEX in FFXIV goes, I don't really care. I really don't think it would make much difference day to day for most players.
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  4. #234
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    I...i'm thinking really hard. But I can't see of any reason why this would be useful in any way to FFXIV.

    Unless you somehow don't have $14 a month, or don't have access to a credit card.
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  5. #235
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    Freyar's Avatar
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    Ostrogniew Radlutasch
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    No, sorry. Nobody should be able to buy their way into gil.

    World of Warcraft may have just adopted it, but that doesn't make it a good choice. There should NEVER be a way to buy gil.
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  6. #236
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    V'aleera Lhuil
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyar View Post
    There should NEVER be a way to buy gil.
    There already is.
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  7. #237
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    Quote Originally Posted by Intaki View Post
    There already is.
    That doesn't mean we should be adding more ways.
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  8. #238
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    No. How much money someone has in real life should have zero influence over how much money they have in-game.
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  9. #239
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunaHoshino View Post
    No. How much money someone has in real life should have zero influence over how much money they have in-game.
    It already does, and I'm not even talking about wedding bands. Go find the most successful martketboard moguls on each server, and ask them how many retainers they have. The smart money is on most of them providing a number greater than two.
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  10. #240
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyar View Post
    That doesn't mean we should be adding more ways.
    I believe the point is, people are going to buy gil one way or another. They do so now and they will continue to do so with or without SE's "blessing".

    Now that I think about it, it's kind of like the Prohibition of the 1920s in the US. Gangsters became filthy rich manufacturing and trafficking booze. But when it ended in 1933 and everyone could legally get in on the market, their income dried up. Is booze good for you? Hell no. Was the Prohibition a good idea? I don't know. But it definitely was good for the gangsters.[1]

    On one hand, I agree with you on principle, that RL money should have zero influence on achieving game objectives/rewards. On the other, we have a cash shop that give the RL rich cooler crap than the rest of us "peasants" while gil/gold selling is alive and well in just about every MMO - WoW has been fighting it for over 8 years.

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    [1] The ban on buying gil with RL money is kind of like the Prohibition. RMT has a monopoly on RL money to gil conversions, just like the gangster had a monopoly on alcohol production and sales. People still bought gil, just like people back then still drank alcohol. Gangsters got rich because of their monopoly, just like RMT is getting rich now.

    PLEX basically legalize gil buying with RL money - without minting more gil and flooding the economy - where every buyer of PLEX is effectively a gil seller. Without their monopoly, RMT's income will drop, just like the post-1933 gangsters.
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    Last edited by Bishop81; 03-06-2015 at 12:49 PM.

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