It's time to reevaluate the idea of adding a PLEX/Chronoscroll-like system to FFXIV

[Duuude007]

Now that I think about it, it's kind of like the Prohibition of the 1920s in the US.

Oh, because it was a legal right at one time for anyone to partake in, then a few leaders decided to take peoples' right to partake, to the point that those same leaders were forced to back out of the policy change and return things back to the way they were.

Yeah... Incredible comparison.

/sarcasm

[Bishop81]

Oh, because it was a legal right at one time for anyone to partake in, then a few leaders decided to take peoples' right to partake, to the point that those same leaders were forced to back out of the policy chnge and return things back to the way they were.

Yeah... Incredible comparison.

/sarcasm

The results are the same.

Gangsters/RMT got rich, despite the authorities' best efforts at wiping them out. Do you want those bastards to continue making money like they have over the last decades?

Principles are great and all, but results are what matter.

[nuyu11]

After read all the post,
It's make me laugh and think a bit...

Population Rich Player are less than normal player because not all player have the gift to get the Gil from market or doing business and mass a fortune. All the normal player get their Gil from normal content.
Some of the player agree for this idea because they thought it could save their real money and play for free, well it could be true if you are from Rich Player category, if not for sure later you will come to this forum and crying for regret.

People play this this game because it's a Pay to Play, for those who disagree for sure will leave this game, they don't want to pay for others. They believe Pay to Play is fair play style and have a solid content, well it's proven and that's why I play WoW and now trying to move to FF14.

I just disagree with this idea but I'm not mad for those who agreed, everyone have their own opinion and view.
In this game I'm considered poor player.

I have a friends in WoW that totally happy with token systems, that token price might be around 40-50k each.
So far his highest earn are about 20k Gold and I have 20mil unused, for 1 year sub it only cost about 500k.
For me this is bit unfair for normal player who enjoy playing normally, some player love to gain fortune, but some only for Raids and some for vanity.

Better wait WoW result and see how Blizzard handle it, or it might end up like Diablo III auction house or WoW Guardian Cub Pet.

[Tiggy]

It already does, and I'm not even talking about wedding bands. Go find the most successful martketboard moguls on each server, and ask them how many retainers they have. The smart money is on most of them providing a number greater than two.

Lol, what a straw man. If you think those extra two retainers make people fortunes then you have a really large misunderstanding of what those retainers are capable of.

[Magis]

There already is.

Out of SE's control, and you know what happens to those who buy gil? They risk getting perma-banned.

Wonder how many gil buyers are in this thread...

Also lol at the people saying SE should do it cause Blizzard is. The company who hasn't made a good expansion since TBC or WotLK depending who you ask. This is the same company who just released a "content patch" that consisted of new blood elf models (which was suppose to be in the expansion release) and...... a selfie maker. Now I am hearing rumors that 2 patches in there won't be any content till next expansion... lol if true. Blizzard can afford to lose half it's peak subscriber base (around 6 million lost lol), or 800K in a few months over bad ideas, SE not so much. Stop with the stupid notion that SE should copy everything Blizzard is doing... they hit gold with the original WoW and TBC, and it has been slowly bleeding since then. Heck, just look at all these comparisons people bring up... Wildstar and Tera: MMOs that failed and went F2P or shutdown. But no, we should copy all these idea bankrupt games cause getting gil is too hurd.

I think it was the Activision - Blizzard merger that killed the game and turned it into what it is now. It makes so much sense where all the shitty business practices came from.

[Dererk]

No

Just no to this whole thing there's no need for it.

Nope none nada

If your playing tour already paying so there's no excuse for people using the words poor rich or what ever.

[MageBlack]

No

Just no to this whole thing there's no need for it.

Nope none nada

If your playing tour already paying so there's no excuse for people using the words poor rich or what ever.

Then let this thread quietly die.

[Duuude007]

Do you want those bastards to continue making money like they have over the last decades?

Would you want SE to dishonor their status as a successful MMO producer by supporting the same money making scheme they are? Really? I sure as hell wouldn't. This is their flagship game, the key reason their company was able to be profitable the past couple years. And your suggestion is for them to betray our trust by doing exactly what they are combating others from doing... right. Genius.

Principles are great and all, but results are what matter.

"If you can't beat 'em, join 'em" isn't merely the abandonment of principle, it is symbolic of a company caring more about the bottom line than their customers. Yoshida has time and time again inferred that he would rather the game be shuttered than betray our trust to the level of 1.0 (or worse) once again.

And you speak of results. Sure, the development team is working on a more effective means to prevent the spamming of ads through tells, and when that is managed, a great deal of their potential business will have been mitigated. But that isn't all that they are doing. By far.



I would rather them fight the good fight than pull a Benedict Arnold. I am certain I am not alone in this.

[Bishop81]

"If you can't beat 'em, join 'em" isn't merely the abandonment of principle, it is symbolic of a company caring more about the bottom line than their customers.

No, it's called being pragmatic.

The fact that it will hurt RMT is even more awesome.

Feel free to be principled in your fantasyland, we here in the real world want solutions. PLEX is the lesser of 2 evils. The less money in the hands of those bastard RMTs, the better.

[Duuude007]

The fact that it will hurt RMT is even more awesome.

You keep claiming this as fact. Most of what I seen here has been anecdotal at best. Being applied to a completely different game design using entirely different scenarios, at worst.

If you have something 'factual' to challenge us with, perhaps some citations to back up the 'stories' your... 'majority' is trying to sell us.