[dev1008] About Jumping

[Anathiel]

(First half put in another thread, should've added to this one lol ^^

I say F jumping, unless done in a ff:xiii style, or zelda. now, listen here...intead of adding jumping. what if they added a small climb feature? you ever see anybody jump in plate armor? even theoretically? not possible. You could however add a small climb feature, using a zelda type collision detection. I see a 2 inch drop? hop down. I see a 2 foot fence? I climb over. I don't have to ninja jump over those small obstacles.

Now, everyone against jumping (or climbing, whatever) they way the reason they don't want it is immersion in the RPG realm. Stay with me, I'm playing my own devil's advocate. Now, when you unlocked your mount in WoW, how often did you jump? I know I never did, I put myself on an auto path and that was it. You followed roads around and that was that. Now, lets say they do implement jumping, but they don't implement jumping on a chocobo. Whether it be the speed of the mount, or just the overall work of having to implement a jump on a mount. Would it really be that bad? No, it wouldn't. You could jump on your own character, but not a mount. I think a huge problem the dev team might be having with jumping is doing it on a chocobo...you'd have to add in momentum, weight, distance. Alot of factors in there, I doubt not wanting you to jump is the one they're weighing on. So, how about it? A compromise that you can jump when you're by yourself, just running along, but not when you're on a chocobo?

[Kimahri]

(First half put in another thread, should've added to this one lol ^^

I say F jumping, unless done in a ff:xiii style, or zelda. now, listen here...intead of adding jumping. what if they added a small climb feature? you ever see anybody jump in plate armor? even theoretically? not possible. You could however add a small climb feature, using a zelda type collision detection. I see a 2 inch drop? hop down. I see a 2 foot fence? I climb over. I don't have to ninja jump over those small obstacles.

Now for this I have a case in point that proves someone in FF series did jump while in plate armor........Steiner from FF9!

As far as a compromise on jumping with your character but not on chocobo, I say no. I can only see people jumping just for the fact to bunny hop. If you really want to jump, why not just add it in an /emote? As you said, we should keep it as only a FFXIII or Zelda game where it's recognized as a Collision Detection. We should only jump as a passive way to clear the obstacle.

[Anathiel]

Now for this I have a case in point that proves someone in FF series did jump while in plate armor........Steiner from FF9!

As far as a compromise on jumping with your character but not on chocobo, I say no. I can only see people jumping just for the fact to bunny hop. If you really want to jump, why not just add it in an /emote? As you said, we should keep it as only a FFXIII or Zelda game where it's recognized as a Collision Detection. We should only jump as a passive way to clear the obstacle.

Touche with Steiner.

I honestly really don't believe in jumping. Doesn't make sense. They're going for realism in character animations. From the start WoW didn't care about realism. Hell with collision engines and practicality, it was about complete fantasy immersion. Actually, I take back my previous comment about not jumping. I honestly don't care either way. If they add it great, if they don't...just as great. It's not a make or break issue with me.

[Kimahri]

Touche with Steiner.

I honestly really don't believe in jumping. Doesn't make sense. They're going for realism in character animations. From the start WoW didn't care about realism. Hell with collision engines and practicality, it was about complete fantasy immersion. Actually, I take back my previous comment about not jumping. I honestly don't care either way. If they add it great, if they don't...just as great. It's not a make or break issue with me.

I honestly don't care either. I'm just trying to voice my opinion as to which is better and also try to appeal to both crowds. The only thing I don't want to see is everybody smashing jump ALL the time. Like if there is a PvP eventually....It's going to turn into Halo where everyone is jumping around you....

[Anathiel]

I honestly don't care either. I'm just trying to voice my opinion as to which is better and also try to appeal to both crowds. The only thing I don't want to see is everybody smashing jump ALL the time. Like if there is a PvP eventually....It's going to turn into Halo where everyone is jumping around you....

Honestly, I think that the dev's care as much about that as any of us. It is final fantasy and as such has a certain standard we would all have to adhere to. Jumping ala Halo style...not gonna happen, I'm 100% beyond a shadow of a doubt certain that it's just not gonna happen.

[Nephera]

(First half put in another thread, should've added to this one lol ^^

you ever see anybody jump in plate armor?

Dragoons and tactics lancers, everyone who wears plate in dissidia, I guess gladiator doesnt get much air but they can certainly do a flip.

Edit: I guess dragoons and lancers mostly had partial plate.


Edit: man it so not going to be like wow or halo if they implement jumping.