Dragoon buffs and Ninja nerfs coming Dec 9th in patch 2.45

[Skyl1n3]

They said they are fixing the lag.

There's no way to fix the lag between Mudras unless you live directly opposite the datacentre or buy something like BattlePing to help the latency issue, I've got it and it is smooth as butter compared to how I played it without BP, but that still doesn't mean they need to nerf NIN's, that's utter BS.

[Jollyy5]

I'm very happy with the promise of buffs, it always bugs me how I just can't beat a good MNK/NIN in DPS despite doing my very best, and as an injury to insult, I can't "patch it up" with any neat supports skills or utility... As it is, DRG is all about DPS, and it doesn't even do that well.

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

What? No. The day a NIN can solo-silence T2, or solo-stun Ifrit or Levi's add, or solo-bind feathers on Garuda, then I'll believe that it has comparable CC to other classes.

Paladins and bards can't solo silence T2, it always happened in a tandem. If monks did it they lose a ton of DPS - Which a Ninja won't lose in similar numbers.
Paladin is the only reliable class to solo stun eruptions in ifrit or levi adds. Meanwhile no one else should be stunning at all. This includes monks with Shoulder Tackle and Steel Peak and Dragoon's Leg Sweep and Spineshatter dive. This means that other two comparable melees lose TWO damage abilities while Ninja only loses one for such occasion. Also: Monks can only use one stun at 10y distance. So much like Arm of the Destroyer, they'll lose DPS if they try to stun it like this.
The more popular meta for Garuda EX is to provoke the spiny plume, rather than to "bind" it. The only one who -could- do this is Bard without damaging and potentially killing the Spiny Plume. But this may cause more harm than good depending on who has the spiny and where it is located.

[hallena]

There's no way to fix the lag between Mudras unless you live directly opposite the datacentre or buy something like BattlePing to help the latency issue, I've got it and it is smooth as butter compared to how I played it without BP, but that still doesn't mean they need to nerf NIN's, that's utter BS.

I live in canada and i've played a lot of game where the servers are located in the US without any lag whatsoever. What's so bad with the server being located in canada for US player?

[Zophar]

Paladin is the only reliable class to solo stun eruptions in ifrit or levi adds. Meanwhile no one else should be stunning at all. This includes monks with Shoulder Tackle and Steel Peak and Dragoon's Leg Sweep and Spineshatter dive. This means that other two comparable melees lose TWO damage abilities while Ninja only loses one for such occasion.

Thank you for actually pointing this out. This is something that almost nobody considers at all. Granted, at this point in the game, there are few scenarios where stun resistance is a concern, but they do exist, and likely will again. And whether or not nin loses any dps at all depends on if they're actually on stun duty at all. If not, nin just changes stances to turn stun into silence, and keeps on trucking. This seems like a minimal boost to dps, but when you add it to the fact that other job's stun moves, suck as spineshatter dive and leg sweep, are lost completely, the gap widens.

[Yumi_umi]

Oh well yoshi will probs buffing drgn sooo much in 3.0 tht ppl will cry nerf. With all the dragoons/ showing of new " dragoon af gear" and the theme of ishgard and the dragons, i think we'll be seeing a lot of drgns jumping around pretending they r from attack on titans loool
The nerf to ninja is kinda odd but whatevs dragoons will always be spoonfed by se every other patch or so.

[Skyl1n3]

I live in canada and i've played a lot of game where the servers are located in the US without any lag whatsoever. What's so bad with the server being located in canada for US player?

Except I'm not from the US, I'm 4000+ miles away over in the UK... at least you're on the same continent.

[Viridiana]

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I never said they wouldn't lose DPS. In fact, it's pretty much assumed that anyone doing CC is going to lose DPS. A MNK solo silencing T2 is losing more than most, but their CC is still unparalleled in that regard. And yes, PLD has an unrivaled stun capability in Ifrit and Leviathan. And no, I was talking about SMN binding all of the feathers in Garuda Hard, which was a common tactic at lower gear levels. Thanks, though, for tacitly admitting that NIN CC is worse than that of the other classes.

[kyrios91]

i think we'll be seeing a lot of drgns jumping around pretending they r from attack on titans loool.

Actually DRGs came out way before that overrated anime bs and those noobs wear something like a grappling hook device while DRGs actually jump using their feet. If we wanna put some logic in the game DRGs would actually jump all around instead of walking by foot, and a single space button press could take them from the ground all the way above the Matron's Lethe in Central Shroud.

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

I never said they wouldn't lose DPS. In fact, it's pretty much assumed that anyone doing CC is going to lose DPS. A MNK solo silencing T2 is losing more than most, but their CC is still unparalleled in that regard. And yes, PLD has an unrivaled stun capability in Ifrit and Leviathan. And no, I was talking about SMN binding all of the feathers in Garuda Hard, which was a common tactic at lower gear levels. Thanks, though, for tacitly admitting that NIN CC is worse than that of the other classes.

I never said they were worse. They just suffer far less DPS loss compared to other classes - If anything, the loss is nowhere near a monk or dragoon when abilities are to be held back for CC purposes. In fact, they have it far easier compared to other DPS classes. Zophar mentioned it before: Not allowed to stun? Switch poisons! And suddenly you have an extra off CD dps ability while others aren't allowed to use it.