Ninja damage insane over monk

[Rahaya]

Utility

A MNK can Silence
A DRG can Stun
A NIN can Stun, Silence, AND refresh TP for a party member

Given the versatility of DPS they bring to the table, less positional requirements, and the utility they bring to the table...you just can't beat that skill set. And since groups will likely only bring two melee DPS to most fights, why wouldn't you bring MNK and NIN?

Mnk can stun (twice with a good Shoulder Tackle) AND silence as I fondly remember solo silencing ADS back in the day and you have Steel Peak.

That's the main problem with these comparison posts, imo. People are always forgetting about or dismissing ALL points of the DRG and MNK. DRG still seems to be the better AOE dps, for example.

[SpecialKK]

Mnk can stun (twice with a good Shoulder Tackle) AND silence as I fondly remember solo silencing ADS back in the day and you have Steel Peak.

That's the main problem with these comparison posts, imo. People are always forgetting about or dismissing ALL points of the DRG and MNK. DRG still seems to be the better AOE dps, for example.

All this does is support my point though. When you look at damage and utility, MNK and NIN looks to be better than DRG.

[Alphras]

Mnk can stun (twice with a good Shoulder Tackle) AND silence as I fondly remember solo silencing ADS back in the day and you have Steel Peak.

That's the main problem with these comparison posts, imo. People are always forgetting about or dismissing ALL points of the DRG and MNK. DRG still seems to be the better AOE dps, for example.

Well, frankly for melee dps all the support utility that didn't increase damage and aoe capability were not relevant in scob and this is what was important the last six months (could argue in favor of Mantra). We will see how it works out in the new content.

[Rahaya]

Well, frankly for melee dps all the support utility that didn't increase damage and aoe capability were not relevant in scob and this is what was important the last six months (could argue in favor of Mantra). We will see how it works out in the new content.

My comment was mainly a reaction to 'NIN has too much utility, damage should be low' idea when MNK is right there as top dps with Mantra vs Goad.

[SpecialKK]

My comment was mainly a reaction to 'NIN has too much utility, damage should be low' idea when MNK is right there as top dps with Mantra vs Goad.

Except the utility comparison was not made in regards to MNK vs. NIN, but NIN vs. DRG

[Rahaya]

Except the utility comparison was not made in regards to MNK vs. NIN, but NIN vs. DRG

Oh I see. DRG does seem to be lacking in what it brings to the table, on top of not being top dps to account for it, is what you mean? I agree. DRGs got kind of screwed.

[SpecialKK]

Oh I see. DRG does seem to be lacking in what it brings to the table, on top of not being top dps to account for it, is what you mean? I agree. DRGs got kind of screwed.

Yes, that was my first post in reference to. Someone mentioned that DRGs damage should be brought up to be more comparable to MNK, and I elaborated by doing a comparison of the three melee DPS. Right now, the sole "bonus" of having a dragoon is for parties with a BRD. Otherwise, we really don't have much utility compared to MNK and definitely NIN.

[melflomil]

Oh I see. DRG does seem to be lacking in what it brings to the table, on top of not being top dps to account for it, is what you mean? I agree. DRGs got kind of screwed.

Dont worry you can guarantee that DRG will get Super Jump (Double potency of Jump and can be stacked with Power surge) and Cresent moon. attack all enemies within range for High damage

[Eardstapa]

Mnk can stun (twice with a good Shoulder Tackle) AND silence as I fondly remember solo silencing ADS back in the day and you have Steel Peak.

That's the main problem with these comparison posts, imo. People are always forgetting about or dismissing ALL points of the DRG and MNK. DRG still seems to be the better AOE dps, for example.

Doton craps all over dragon AoE DPS from what I have seen...