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    Eardstapa's Avatar
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    Edward Volcdegen
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    I really want to see someone clear T10-13 with 4-5 ninjas....
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    Kori Fleming
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eardstapa View Post
    I really want to see someone clear T10-13 with 4-5 ninjas....
    If you could WAR solo tank any of the turns (you can't solo tank any of the turns in FCoB afaik) and solo heal them, you could bring 6 NINs, have 100% up time on Trick Attack, and never have any of the NINs need to keep up DE. I actually really want to see someone do T9 or something with this setup just to see the numbers with 100% TA up time.
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    Philia Felice
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    If you could WAR solo tank any of the turns (you can't solo tank any of the turns in FCoB afaik) and solo heal them, you could bring 6 NINs, have 100% up time on Trick Attack, and never have any of the NINs need to keep up DE. I actually really want to see someone do T9 or something with this setup just to see the numbers with 100% TA up time.
    Definitely can't solo tank 10, 11, or 13. T12 is in the "possible but not realistic at all" category where you could Provoke with a class to eat the Revelations and otherwise solo tank it, getting heal bombed through Bennus and not participating in the rot mechanic or fountain.

    That being said, as fun as 4 NIN sounds and as strong as it sounds at ST DPS, there's too many reasons to bring a caster + BRD too. Square basically forced it on us; Physical resistance, AoE, caster LB, having a mobile mechanic user from BRD ... there's always a very strong reason to bring a caster in each turn. 4 NIN could definitely clear all content but it'd be more total DPS to do caster + BRD + NIN + NIN in all likelihood.
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    Yeah I cant out DPS a monk in a boss fight. When killing mobs and such yeah I can all day long. Its all about positional. And we have more positionals than just one. There is sneak attack and trick attack too, which gives a hella nasty debuff to the enemy.
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    Aria Placida
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrystalMagus View Post
    Yeah I cant out DPS a monk in a boss fight. When killing mobs and such yeah I can all day long. Its all about positional. And we have more positionals than just one. There is sneak attack and trick attack too, which gives a hella nasty debuff to the enemy.
    But there's no reason to use sneak attack once you have trick attack, so it's basically one positional ad a different positional you never use. >_>
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    Kenrir Amnis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    But there's no reason to use sneak attack once you have trick attack, so it's basically one positional ad a different positional you never use. >_>
    In majority of fights, you are correct. However there are some fights that ST will be used for convenience sake.
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    Edward Volcdegen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    But there's no reason to use sneak attack once you have trick attack, so it's basically one positional ad a different positional you never use. >_>
    Kraken says, "Screw your rear attacks."
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    Aria Placida
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eardstapa View Post
    Kraken says, "Screw your rear attacks."
    So does Demon Wall, I guess. What? I can't not do the relic quest. >_>

    Anyway, I guess Suiton plus SA beats Raiton, assuming you weren't going to do anything else with that second oGCD gap. I still don't even have it on my bar, though. I don't think two ridiculously easy fights out of the whole game warrant putting it on my bar; same way I feel about Tri-disaster.
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    Cynric Caliburn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    So does Demon Wall, I guess. What? I can't not do the relic quest. >_>

    Anyway, I guess Suiton plus SA beats Raiton, assuming you weren't going to do anything else with that second oGCD gap. I still don't even have it on my bar, though. I don't think two ridiculously easy fights out of the whole game warrant putting it on my bar; same way I feel about Tri-disaster.
    Sneak Attack is better than trick for trash pulls.

    but otherwise usually TA will beat SA,even if adds in a boss fight and add is high health TA it. If it's low health might as well just save TA for the boss.

    only time SA beats TA is in those very few situations where you wont touch the mobs rear very often.

    Both SA and TA are godly in PVP though.
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    Last edited by Cynric; 11-18-2014 at 07:45 AM.

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    Commodore Butcherboy
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    Anyone know the 2.4 stat weight. Is it the same as brd? I know brd is det 0.315 and crit 0.318. I'd just like to know for nin
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