Booing when Coil2 Nerf was announced

[odintius]

I don't think so. They eased the difficulty, but they certainly didn't fisher price mode it. They do expect it to have some difficulty and for consecutive coils to ramp up. Don't forget they originally stopped echo at 15% because they were satisfied with the completion% from the player base. They don't expect everyone in the community to start face rolling content the moment it's not the brand newest thing on the block.

I pretty sure it isn't going to be this is your assumption on your part of these people walk in and given a clear people arent asking for that and are well aware it going to be tone down abit for people and those mechanic are as harsh isn't a instant wipe for because they can't group dance together easy that simple enjoy Final bahumut diffculty though those people will be following eventually also after the next patch or expansion please look forward to it.

[Wyrmnus]

You people will never change, thinking the world revolves around you and nobody else.

[Tiggy]

I pretty sure it isn't going to be this is your assumption on your part of these people walk in and given a clear people arent asking for that and are well aware it going to be tone down abit for people and those mechanic are as harsh isn't a instant wipe for because they can't group dance together easy that simple enjoy Final bahumut diffculty though those people will be following eventually also after the next patch or expansion please look forward to it.

I added this afterwards that addresses how I read their mechanics to determine their intent.

Let us not forget hard mode primals go to 50% echo. Coil stops at 20%. They want it to be tougher and they want hard primals to be easy. Their intentions are clear using the degree of echo as a measuring stick.

It's not an assumption. I'm watching how they choose to nerf the content and to what degree. If they wanted face roll difficulty we'd have 50% echo and a minor change to turn 2's paralysis wouldn't have been the only tweak they made to the mechanics. It's not that hard to see that they still expect a minor degree of difficulty. This game will never cater to the lowest possible common denominator.

Then again I may have misinterpreted what you're trying to say. It's a giant run on sentence with no clear structure or thought processes. I'm having a hard time following it.

[Riepah]

Let us not forget hard mode primals go to 50% echo.

Excuse me, what? 50%? Since when?

[Audacity]

You people will never change, thinking the world revolves around you and nobody else.

I know, all of these people asking for an easy win, thinking the world revolves around them.

[Tiggy]

Excuse me, what? 50%? Since when?

Since 2.2.

Hard Mode primals get 10% per stack up to 50%.
Extreme mode get's 5% per stack up to 25% percent.

You can confirm via the patch notes here. http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...0fb8139b3464da

[Magis]

I know, all of these people asking for an easy win, thinking the world revolves around them.

"Listen, I know all you guys had to pull through this content, work together, etc... but I don't want to. Can I have an exception for me? See I am special and need these changes, screw the other guys."

[Gucci_Charms]

I find it ridiculous when people say they have "no time" to beat Coil. You have/had 7 months to beat each coil set. The groups that have successfully beaten these coil sets are those who were willing to put in the time, make a lot of mistakes wiping, and continuously improving their gameplay to down the content.

Being proactive gets you far. Being reactive by waiting several months later for Yoshi P and his team to create a Fisher Price version and whining on the forum that end-game content is too hard does not get you far. That time bad players use waiting and complaining on these forums that hardcore end-game raiders aren't helping them could be used to actually learn the end-game coil content instead.

Nerfing content and adding echo buff doesn't actually do bad players a favor either. It really just gives them the illusion that they're good players without realizing where their faults are and how they can improve on them in the long run.

In before NyarukoW post his rant that I supposedly hate new players and so forth:

I'm all for helping new or bad players when needed. If they're not willing to improve their game to down content on their own, however, that's a whole different story.

[Wyrmnus]

I know, all of these people asking for an easy win, thinking the world revolves around them.

Oh really? What proof do you have? The difference here is that some of us want to help others progress instead of being roadblocked by insecure raiders demanding perfection.

[Magis]

Oh really? What proof do you have? The difference here is that some of us want to help others progress instead of being roadblocked by insecure raiders demanding perfection.

That's a complaint on lockouts though, not really the difficulty of content? And since lockouts are usually a problem for people who already cleared coil, I am sure a lot of people would be with you on that argument.

Edit: Rereading, I actually don't get your post. How does difficulty of content roadblock you from helping people?