Booing when Coil2 Nerf was announced

[Wyrmnus]

I know, all of these people asking for an easy win, thinking the world revolves around them.

Oh really? What proof do you have? The difference here is that some of us want to help others progress instead of being roadblocked by insecure raiders demanding perfection.

[Magis]

Oh really? What proof do you have? The difference here is that some of us want to help others progress instead of being roadblocked by insecure raiders demanding perfection.

That's a complaint on lockouts though, not really the difficulty of content? And since lockouts are usually a problem for people who already cleared coil, I am sure a lot of people would be with you on that argument.

Edit: Rereading, I actually don't get your post. How does difficulty of content roadblock you from helping people?

[Tiggy]

Oh really? What proof do you have? The difference here is that some of us want to help others progress instead of being roadblocked by insecure raiders demanding perfection.

They already said they are adding something for that in 2.45. The conversation in this thread really hasn't been about helping friends at all anyway. Pretty off topic.

[Dwill]

Oh really? What proof do you have? The difference here is that some of us want to help others progress instead of being roadblocked by insecure raiders demanding perfection.

Did you even play endgame with these people ? I can speak from experience that most of the players that can easily clear T9 are actually nice people who are willing to endure their share of wipes while they and their static/guild learn the mechanics. They aren't demanding perfection, they are demanding that you show progress in learning the encounters. If anything, I've seen casuals and pugs be much harsher in their judgment of other people's skills

But again, good job at using a 10 years old stereotype. I bet you feel real clever.

[Wyrmnus]

Did you even play endgame with these people ? I can speak from experience that most of the players that can easily clear T9 are actually nice people who are willing to endure their share of wipes while they and their static/guild learn the mechanics. They aren't demanding perfection, they are demanding that you show progress in learning the encounters.

But again, good job at using a 10 years old stereotype. I bet you feel real clever.

Cant really show progress when THEY DONT LET US INTO THE GROUPS TO BEGIN WITH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Tiggy]

Cant really show progress when THEY DONT LET US INTO THE GROUPS TO BEGIN WITH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Square isn't preventing you from joining groups. Once again if this is specifically about taking people who are beating it and helping their friends then they already announced they have something for 2.45 to help with that. No need to continue preaching about something they already said they would fix. It's not helping you make a case for what this thread was talking about. It's entirely off topic.

Edit: Rereading, I actually don't get your post. How does difficulty of content roadblock you from helping people?

He means the coil lockout preventing you from going back a turn and helping friends. Which as I told him, and he chose to ignore, they are fixing in 2.45.

[Magis]

Cant really show progress when THEY DONT LET US INTO THE GROUPS TO BEGIN WITH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are on Balmung, a high population server. Now I don't know the community there, but I still see learning parties here on Excalibur pop up, so I assume it's the same case there. Those parties is where you start, and begin to learn the fight. This is how I started around when 2.3 launched, and now me and my group are getting under 50% in T8 (if lucky, might even clear Avatar this week ^^).

I, just like many others, are simply standing our ground against all these tough guy raiders that demand we're denied even a drip of ease on content. Hell its not even the content on my mind anymore. Its the sheer ARROGANCE of some of these people that have me sick to my stomach. To hell with you people.

No one is "denying" you anything, get over yourself. You have just the same amount of a chance as everyone else. The game doesn't discriminate between characters. Also "tough guy raiders"? What is this, 2005?

[JTribal]

Cant really show progress when THEY DONT LET US INTO THE GROUPS TO BEGIN WITH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm gonna have to ask you to calm down please.

[Riepah]

I can speak from experience that most of the players that can easily clear T9 are actually nice people who are willing to endure their share of wipes while they and their static/guild learn the mechanics.

But again, good job at using a 10 years old stereotype. I bet you feel real clever.

"They and their static/guild" - so, basically, they help themselves? How very nice of them.

[Dwill]

Cant really show progress when THEY DONT LET US INTO THE GROUPS TO BEGIN WITH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If plenty of people can make an effort to build a static and clear content, so can you. You're not entitled to being invited to anyone's group if they don't want to.

"They and their static/guild" - so, basically, they help themselves? How very nice of them.

Are you seriously insinuating that people who are in a progression phase aren't nice because they don't invite strangers in their progression group ?