Booing when Coil2 Nerf was announced

[Tiggy]

If you're not into dealing with mechanics, Don't do coil, Simple. Just because there's story behind it it doesn't entitle the fight to be handed to you on a silver platter.

I don't understand why they don't just watch it on YouTube. If they want it to be that easy then what's the point in even fighting it? If they get through the fight and it's tank and spank difficulty then they didn't really beat it. The achievement is hollow. They should just goto YouTube and stop trying to fool their brains into thinking they achieved something when they didn't. The only reason they want to actually do it in game is to "feel" like they did it, and they'd rather bring the game down to do it. If they want to watch the cut scene and see their character in it then they should earn the right by beating it. Not beg for it.

[Tsuwu]

[LegendWait]

...Complaining about SE making the game accessible via making older content more accessible is not a valid complaint.

I'ts valid because if you can't dodge divebomb in t5, you'll never have a change in t9, and in turn turn13... and so on

...Unless you wanna always be 1 year behind everyone on content, (and be completely overgeared, making the turns you fight obcelete)

Complicated mechanic breeds your skills. So SO many players have tunnel vision, it'll will never go away if they get the win is handed to them for free. And they will NEVER get on the current content because they will be unable to maintain an optimal dps/heal performance (its a must) while keeping an eye on upcoming mechanics.

Those mechanics that comes in similar shapes forms and speed in later turn. So knowing how to deal with any X mechanic will become an asset to the player in a later fight.

The game learning curve must be maintained to a hard enough degree.

[odintius]

If you're not into dealing with mechanics, Don't do coil, Simple. Just because there's story behind it it doesn't entitle the fight to be handed to you on a silver platter.

I believe SE disagrees with you sorry their is such a thing as different types gamer besides hardcore thx.

[Tiggy]

I believe SE disagrees with you sorry their is such a thing as different types gamer besides hardcore thx.

I don't think so. They eased the difficulty, but they certainly didn't fisher price mode it. They do expect it to have some difficulty and for consecutive coils to ramp up. Don't forget they originally stopped echo at 15% because they were satisfied with the completion% from the player base. They don't expect everyone in the community to start face rolling content the moment it's not the brand newest thing on the block, and they don't expect everyone and their grandmother to beat it either or they wouldn't have stopped at 20% echo. Let us not forget hard mode primals go to 50% echo. Coil stops at 20%. They want it to be tougher and they want hard primals to be easy. Their intentions are clear using the degree of echo as a measuring stick.

[NyarukoW]

You really missed the point. .... It's that she doesn't go around begging for hand outs...

I did NOT miss the point. It doesn't matter if one person does NOT go begging. There are plenty of crafter threads complaining about crafting and begging for all sorts of stuff. The most common being crafting is worthless and I can't sell anything threads. Those players are begging and you see plenty of those.

Artisan tools makes it possible to get supra tools. And the Ixal dailies are so good for leveling your crafters. I leveled 6 different crafting classes to 50 in 3 weeks time it the aid of the Ixal dailies. I wasn't around when FFXIV ARR launched but the all the tips about 3x crafting leves didn't show up until at least a month after the launch, which seems to indicate it was added. And with those supra tools, it is much easier to craft those 3 stars and this was added just in 2.3. So they added desynthesis which its analog is like the current SCOB and maybe final coil going forward. But in time SE will adjust all this too, it seems crafting is on schedule different from raid probably because SE sees a different player utilization pattern. Everyone already knows about the new recipes incoming so in 6 months you'll see that things will have moved again. Rember when 2star vanya stuff was big deal, now it is well beyond that, and it is easier to get to 50 now with the aids they put in place. And in no way has SE made things harder for crafting. Stuff has only gotten cheaper with time because it has become more accessible.

[Audacity]

I believe SE disagrees with you sorry their is such a thing as different types gamer besides hardcore thx.

There's Hardcore

There's Casual

And there's people who still can't beat Turn 5.

There* also.

[Magis]

I'ts valid because if you can't dodge divebomb in t5, you'll never have a change in t9, and in turn turn13... and so on

That's actually a good point. The mechanics in Coil2 are way harder than Turn1-4 (even 5 really).

T6 has an inverse twisters (stop moving when she starts casting), player predicting/communication (to break thorns and her line blast), and multimanagement (like twisters/dreadknight, but blighted/hornet).
T7 has totally new mechanics (in terms of Coil), involving watching debuffs and directing the voice blasts, kiting/stacking, and add management.
T8 has more player management for activating the towers, as well as the whole hierarchy of responsibility thing Ramuh and Avatar do.

Can't say about T9, but from the amount of people who get there and have a hard time, I'd say that it would be literally impossible if you can't clear T5.

From the live letter, they said they wouldn't "nerf the mechanics" (like stone won't insta-kill you), but if the fights don't change, then I bet you people would still cry and complain the fight was "too hard" (like people still complain about T5).

[Tiggy]

I did NOT miss the point.

Yes, and you're second post proves it. It was never, ever, about how fast or easy it eventually became. Reading comprehension fail.

[Elim]

So one friend= entire community I believe it might be bit more diverse then what you imagine it to be and not as simple based off one person comments thanks. *had to cut these short*

Didn't say the entire community but I do believe a lot of people use the same lame excuse.

I also work and have a lot of responsibilities outside of the game, but I've allotted myself enough game time to clear coil 2.