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    Player Tiggy's Avatar
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    Auron_Wolf. It doesn't seem like you really read the thread at all and instead decided to use stereotypes in the form of memes. The way you purposefully desparage and diminish people's effort and time investment as wasteful and pointless is insulting to others. What they value is non of your concern and coming here and insulting it doesn't make your argument more correct or valid. While I'm at it you're the only person here who brought up "virtual status" or anything like it.

    This would be Exhibit B for me.
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    Auron Wolf
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    Hyperion
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    Auron_Wolf. It doesn't seem like you really read the thread at all and instead decided to use stereotypes in the form of memes. The way you purposefully desparage and diminish people's effort and time investment as wasteful and pointless is insulting to others. What they value is non of your concern and coming here and insulting it doesn't make your argument more correct or valid. While I'm at it you're the only person here who brought up "virtual status" or anything like it.

    This would be Exhibit B for me.
    i delete the reply, going to post that in other thread and didn't notice i have other windows open and post it in the wrong place, sorry just ignore it.

    menuda metida de pata :/
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    Player Tiggy's Avatar
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    Mistakes happen. That other thread has definitely gone more off the deep end than this one.
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    Ryujin Uzikin
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    They should simply divide coil in ilv. This way ppl can choose an easier coil vs the more challenging and better rewarding one.

    And at the same time people who don't care much about doing it the hard way can see the story behind coil without waiting a long time to find a party that knows what they're doing.

    Hell I haven't even tried to find one since ppl are too damn picky about having VC.

    Pff!

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    Arcanist Lv 60
    I think, just my opinion, that they could raise the visibility of certain mechanics as a form of the "nerf". For example show along the floor the pathing of T5 divebombs and an aggro arrow for the dreadknights. Maybe a small radial pulse for twisters?

    Admittedly i know little of SCoB and if that would work there, but eh. Just tossing that out there. Personally I would rather do the fight at a decent strength and either clear it through overgear or overlevels. Oh and moving. I want to move and dodge too. But I can empathize with other players and how they progress.
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    Last edited by Xairos; 10-23-2014 at 02:09 PM.

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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Sargatanas
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    I seen so many people complain they don't want one hit kills and they claim it doesn't make the fights hard because its scripted. I check peoples profiles whenever they say coil isn't hard its scripted ect and they never had any coil achievements or gear. If its so "easy because its scripted", then why don't they do it?

    Some how a tank and spank fight is the pinnacle of challenge.

    They want tank and spank when you mess up don't die or wipe the raid but take a lot of damage or get a debuff that can be healed through. Basically what a lot of casual players want is a glorified CT. The ironic thing however is they complain about how CT is too easy, despite wanting the whole game to be basically tank and spank where mistakes mean you just heal a lot of damage up.
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    I seen so many people complain they don't want one hit kills and they claim it doesn't make the fights hard because its scripted. I check peoples profiles whenever they say coil isn't hard its scripted ect and they never had any coil achievements or gear. If its so "easy because its scripted", then why don't they do it?

    Some how a tank and spank fight is the pinnacle of challenge.

    They want tank and spank when you mess up don't die or wipe the raid but take a lot of damage or get a debuff that can be healed through. Basically what a lot of casual players want is a glorified CT. The ironic thing however is they complain about how CT is too easy, despite wanting the whole game to be basically tank and spank where mistakes mean you just heal a lot of damage up.
    Tank and spank fights like T8, some players still deal shit DPS.

    /just saying.
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    Player Tsuwu's Avatar
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    Cactuar
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Just a minor point in case, here...

    Was watching an FC mate's stream of T9, as she was running with a pick up group.
    There was a DRG in the group with low damage output, dying to Dynamo, getting exploded on constantly, getting meteors dropped on her head, etc.

    And the DRG blamed the group for not carrying her.

    Then, we thought back to launch. This same DRG was one of the vocal ones about nerfing T5. Never got her clear until, after months of complaints, she was carried by some friends of ours.
    No sense of accomplishment. No struggle. Just easy mode.
    And here she is in T9, expecting - even demanding from team members that they make up for her low damage output (Which was 1/3 of our WAR's).

    These nerfs allow this type of player through to T10.
    And the cycle will continue.

    But alas, it's already been decided. Hopefully this outcry will reach some receptive ears at Mr. G's team, and have some type of productive sway in regards to preserving challenge in this game.
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    Carnage Incarnate
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    Tonberry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuwu View Post
    Hopefully this outcry will reach some receptive ears at Mr. G's team, and have some type of productive sway in regards to preserving challenge in this game.
    I believe even Mr G. can't fix stupidity as shown on tat loldrg u mentioned
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    Player Tsuwu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Empressia View Post
    I believe even Mr G. can't fix stupidity as shown on tat loldrg u mentioned
    Can't fix stupid.
    But he can make it impossible for stupid to get through T10 without getting better at this game.
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