Quote Originally Posted by Fawkes View Post
SE isn't making it easier because people asked them to. It's something they planned to do with content since before ARR launched. Any time they talk about making coil easier they don't say "Lots of people asked us to do this", they say "The clear rates are unsatisfactory so we're going to add echo and make changes until the clear rates are where we'd like them to be".
And that is correct, this is something I imagine you already know Tiggy, but player feedback isn't regarded as high as metrics for them, not to mention our feedback is filtered a lot by what the community reps decide to gather and how they decide to word it.

I've always assumed they had a plan to ease up on old raids as the average ilvl increased, specially since raids that were originally meant to be cleared by a really small percent of the community within their appropriate time, this is reinforced by the fact that they are adamant to let people help others who may not clear the raid by themselves otherwise while the raid is still relevant, but once the raid is replaced they no longer want to keep a choke hold and they want it to be more and more accessible, so more people can reach the new choke hold, the new raid.

The nerf to first and second coil didn't happen due to people crying, they happened due to metrics, just like the nerf to Pharos Sirius and AK.

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Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
Yes I agree that was their plan and as is fine. My problem is with people who seem to want degraded immediately to the lowest common denominator instantly. foolish and shortsighted.
I do agree with you here, nerf should happen slowly, checking the metrics to see how people are doing after any modification is made, just so they don't end up over-nerfing it.