Booing when Coil2 Nerf was announced

[VahnValbosce]

Looks to me like you aren't "done" at all.

Yea you're right, because people kept putting words in my mouth so I had to come back to defend myself.

Btw, your post is just another silly attempt at discrediting all the points I've put forward. Have fun with your FOX NEWS debate mentality.

...SE will take 99 of us scrubs than 1 of you any day of the week.

"99% of the playerbase is scrubs, BUT no wait, VAHN is the elitist Jerk!"

HAHAHA..... LOL.... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA........... AHHHHAHAHAHA.....

Guys stop it, you're killing me! Hahahahaha... Ahahahaha...

So many people who weren't even there making crazy assumptions.

One thing is true. Easy games don't last because they bore people. People wanting easy content keep wanting us to think of it from there perspective while gleefully falling to follow their own advice.

No, they can't clear the content, so they turn around and call us Elitist JERKS instead of fixing their own problems that they need to fix in order to clear the raid.

End of discussion, GG.

[CrystalRainbow]

Well in my mind most of the people that go to an even like this have static and play all the time with only one main game.

I like to play all parts of games I get but I'm very laid back.
And playing the same content 200 times doesn't fit in what I would call fun.


So Nerfing old content is something I like, But I would sooner get stronger then Nerfing.

[DoctorPepper]

Yea you're right, because people kept putting words in my mouth so I had to come back to defend myself.

Btw, your post is just another silly attempt at discrediting all the points I've put forward. Have fun with your FOX NEWS debate mentality.

I think you need to stop taking things so personally, just because somebody expresses their different opinion does not mean they're attacking you. Personally I did think you came up with some good points throughout your various posts, it's the ones that belittle people or entire groups of people that bother me. Everybody here is equal in my opinion and that will not change. Try not to take things personally because we are all just here defending out own opinions (and killing time at work).

[Kuwagami]

Loyal Fans want to play for a long time, they want content that takes a long time to clear because its FUN and CHALLENGING. IMO Their money counts more than anyone else.

They pay the same amount so no their money isn't worth more. They are less than the others so they are a minority. Try harder if you want to convince anyone

[odintius]

Yea you're right, because people kept putting words in my mouth so I had to come back to defend myself.

Btw, your post is just another silly attempt at discrediting all the points I've put forward. Have fun with your FOX NEWS debate mentality.

So you don't like to debate others with a different point of view of things it has to be your views only and that it you must watch one of the other news channel I take it.

[Geesus]

If your sooooo casual and spend 1 hour per week playing this game, you DO NOT deserve to clear coil, SIMPLE as that. You need to get over YOURSELF and accept it.

Goodbye.

Bro? I was with you on almost ALL the stuff you have mentioned in this thread; until now. lol

I don't play that often per week. I'm not in any static to clear T6-9 BUT, I don't rely on others to carry me. Matter of fact, all the times my FC offered to help me in T5, I said no. I did my own progression and practiced in PF groups as learning PTs UNTIL, I felt I could do the job I needed to do on my own. As a Dragoon, everyone knows, it's not the "easiest" job for T5. You have quite a bit of responsibility. Now, I'M helping others progress. All of that to say, "you DO NOT deserve a coil clear, simple as that." is kind of a stretch.

People DO have to take accountability for WANTING to learn. Just because it's hard or frustrating, doesn't mean it should be nerfed. I agree with you. But to take the stand of "you don't deserve" something is rather harsh. They may not "deserve" it if they don't TRY but, one hour per week, if spent practicing, could net them a win. Most of our previous group had about an hour a night or every other night to devote to T6 and WE CLEARED IT! So it CAN be done. But, we wanted it.

[odintius]

Bro? I was with you on almost ALL the stuff you have mentioned in this thread; until now. lol

I don't play that often per week. I'm not in any static to clear T6-9 BUT, I don't rely on others to carry me. Matter of fact, all the times my FC offered to help me in T5, I said no. I did my own progression and practiced in PF groups as learning PTs UNTIL, I felt I could do the job I needed to do on my own.

That some of the problems with mmo's everyone has certain times schedule different type of gaming they like to do ect it easy just to lump everyone into the same category of gamer, but it isn't as simple as everyone including myself make it out to be.

[Tiggy]

So many people who weren't even there making crazy assumptions. For example.

I'm pretty sure most casual players aren't going to attend a fanfest, and they're far from a minority when it comes to the population of an MMO like this one.

This is false and an assumption. There many casual there. Some for PvP, some for Cosplay, some who don't play much at all. Going to this event in no way had a hardcore prereq. In my group alone we had half of us out of 12 who don't play very much at all. They enjoy the game and their friends but are in no way hardcore.

One thing is true. Easy games don't last because they bore people. People wanting easy content keep wanting us to think of it from there perspective while gleefully falling to follow their own advice.

[Kuwagami]

"99% of the playerbase is scrubs, BUT no wait, VAHN is the elitist Jerk!"
"99% of the playerbase is scrubs, BUT wait guys, VAHN is the elitist Jerk![/B]"

HAHAHA..... LOL.... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA........... AHHHHAHAHAHA.....

Guys stop it, you're killing me! Hahahahaha... Ahahahaha...

Man do you even try ? Even though poorly worded, their point was that SE will listen to the majority. Majority wants nerf, the devs will enrf. Period.

If you cannot clear coil within that time allotment, then 2 things:
#1. You shouldn't be subscribing to a Pay 2 Play MMO, because you obviously need more time to learn and progress in a fight, but you simply do not have the time, due to your "busy real life schedule" or whatever else it is that takes up your precious time.
#2. You are the person holding people back, and you should just accept that fact and work on your progression and get better at the game.

If you think I'm being a jerk about these comments, then what can I tell you? YOU are the jerk for wanting to ruin other peoples challenging and fun experiences by having things nerfed.

You are being beyond rudeness here...
#1 none of your business, people spend their money however they want.

#2 stop assuming, you're bad at it. You know nothing (John Snow) thus shouldn't speculate anything about anyone you don't know at all

if you already cleared things, there is no point for you to claim that people wanting nerfs "ruin" your challenge. The content isn't challenging at all once cleared

[Fawkes]

So many people who weren't even there making crazy assumptions.

One thing is true. Easy games don't last because they bore people. People wanting easy content keep wanting us to think of it from there perspective while gleefully falling to follow their own advice.

The same could be said of hard games, which is why there are no mainstream hard MMOs anymore.

I think this game does a good job of splitting the difference by having hard content and then making it easier over time as new hard content is added.