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    Quote Originally Posted by WeiShan View Post
    Tanaka knows how to make a longevity MMO (XI/XIV 1.23),
    Only to inform you Tanaka have leave the head of XIV on December 2010 after the Bad release of the game on September 2010 and on December 2010 Yoshi was make the new producer with Tanaka going back to FFXI. So yep Tanaka have prolly designed some stuff coming after yoshi come in , but not all till the end.
    After I think some ppl have "Rose Tinted Glass" , yes XI was a good MMO but have got crap point , like the lvling process that could take day to get 1 invite , take you 30 min to go there , and then have party disband on you.
    The fact that if you don't have linkshell you couldn't do anything at all. After XIV is a good MMO too , but he have is crap point like any other MMO out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koanyan View Post
    Only to inform you Tanaka have leave the head of XIV on December 2010 after the Bad release of the game on September 2010 and on December 2010 Yoshi was make the new producer with Tanaka going back to FFXI. So yep Tanaka have prolly designed some stuff coming after yoshi come in , but not all till the end.
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    XIV1.x contents: af quests,moogle keystone grinding,hamlet defense,8man dungeons,skirmish,faction leves,NMs
    were not designed by Yoshi,except the meteor event

    they were the original plan of 1.0,
    1.0 failed it was because it released too early

    and Yoshi decided to water them down,then you got the lackluster,badly implemented af quests /guild leves/4man dungeons/hunts in 2.0
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    Quote Originally Posted by WeiShan View Post
    XIV1.x contents: af quests,moogle keystone grinding,hamlet defense,8man dungeons,skirmish,faction leves,NMs
    were not designed by Yoshi,except the meteor event

    they were the original plan of 1.0,
    1.0 failed it was because it released too early

    and Yoshi decided to water them down,then you got the lackluster af quests /guild leves/4man dungeons/hunts in 2.0
    I know you can read Japanse, read it yourself, the Japanese reaction about Tanaka:

    http://awabi.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/ogame/1366300543/l50

    This is another source:

    http://wiki.ffo.jp/html/10163.html

    He is a very self-centred producer. His managment on his development team of original FF14 1.0 is also problematic. He is also a producer got caught of going annon on 2ch to attack his own player base. He maybe your idol, but to many of us, he is the one guilty for FF14 1.0's stupid designs.

    He kept his nickname as バ開発 (Stupid Developer) to the day he resigned from Square Enix.
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    Last edited by Divinemight; 09-25-2014 at 12:33 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemight View Post
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    Yoshi removed the Fatigue system,that was a welcome change,
    at the end of 1.23, the game had an almost perfect balance.
    the game was not too time consuming,it was not easy, it was fun

    and the most important thing(credits to Tanaka),
    the atmosphere,the community,player interaction content, are much much better than XIV 2.0

    the camera, control, ui are suck in XI, but why it's so unforgettable
    because there are something more important than these
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    Wei, you said you were leaving. What you want isn't here at the moment come back and see at 3.0.


    Quote Originally Posted by SythSynner View Post
    I feel there is nothing wrong with the whole Atma grinding. It goes by really quickly tbh. Just most ppl make it feel like it takes to long.

    As for The Hunt and PS3/4 players... Not much I can say about that besides this is an MMO and for as long as I played MMOs (yes, I know FFXI is on PS as well) I feel MMOs should stick to PCs and PCs only. I see it as their fault and we (PC) should not be punished for it. The game already has limits due to it being on the PS3/4. NOTE: To clear up, I have nothing against PS players, I just feel because the game is also for the PS that the game also has to be limited. Not a full 100% open world is one of the reasons.

    Rushing out content? I think they are at a good speed with that. Not to fast and not to slow. If you want slower new content.. then play WoW.. do the same thing (no new stuff) for 2-4 months.
    This clear up message doesn't sound like how your intended to make it sound. Seems more like you want us all off your precious MMO. Grouping all PS players is ridiculous IMHO.. PS3 is where the limits lie 4 is fine at the moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WeiShan View Post
    Yoshi removed the Fatigue system,that was a welcome change,
    at the end of 1.23, the game had an almost perfect balance.
    the game was not too time consuming,it was not easy, it was fun

    and the most important thing(credits to Tanaka),
    the atmosphere,the community,player interaction content, are much much better than XIV 2.0
    Dont fool yourself. You had the atmosphere and the community because of solid fans from FF11. FF11 community was much discplined than FF14 community only because they have been co-exist with Japanse community in harmony for many years. It has nothing to do with those elements you have mentioned. Tanaka is the one guilty of destory this FF11 community due to the disapointment.

    Class system looks innovative at first place, but it is poorly executed. Main job / sub job system is the trademark of FF11, but who destroyed it? It is Tanaka. Who got the retard idea of bound class to the type of weapon? It is Tanaka. Who created the boring guildlevels system as only method of levling? It is Tanaka.

    If you are looking for old retro type of mmo in current time period, you might as well quite gaming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WeiShan View Post
    stuff that's ultimately unimportant
    His game was an embarrassment for square. It got terrible reviews, and almost no one liked it. It was a massive failure. You stand in the infinitesimally small portion of the player base that actually liked what he did. You know what though? Money talks. That's why he was taken off the project.

    You may have liked it, but almost no one did. You will convince no one here that it was a great game and that Tanaka was better. The funny thing is you keep mentioning later versions that were directly effected by Yoshi-P and how good they were. It's like Yoshi wasn't there for you.

    The kind of game you want doesn't exist in modern MMOs anymore. Accept it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Theresa View Post
    I don't bother with ATMA or Personal Housing, I bother with the fact they are not willing to give us better servers.
    Is it really the servers or the crappy state of the north american internet that's the real problem? I lean to the internet being the source of most peoples problems, but many people don't understand how the internet works and they don't know how to diagnose their problems properly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    Is it really the servers or the crappy state of the north american internet that's the real problem? I lean to the internet being the source of most peoples problems, but many people don't understand how the internet works and they don't know how to diagnose their problems properly.
    Shouldn't you consider this when marketing over seas?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeaTimeBear View Post
    Shouldn't you consider this when marketing over seas?
    Perhaps, but that still doesn't make it a server problem. They could add a cluster that's more convenient for south american and Australia, but that doesn't mean the servers themselves are bad. Despite the fact many people seem to think that's the problem. The servers have been stable outside of patch nights for quite a while now.

    Also, the poor interconnects between the backbone providers isn't something SE can do anything about, and it's a condition that changes year to year. You can't exactly up and move the whole data center because the internet starts working poorly. As far as we know they evaluated the internet and data center and everything looked good at that time. It's easy to go back with hindsight and act like they should have known, but it probably wasn't a problem when they picked that data center.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    Is it really the servers or the crappy state of the north american internet that's the real problem? I lean to the internet being the source of most peoples problems, but many people don't understand how the internet works and they don't know how to diagnose their problems properly.
    I live in the NA and use a JP Data Center and have zero issues when it comes to servers. Ping and pocket traffic are all at good levels. Before I was on a server that was in the NA Data Center, did not go so well. I hated it. I think it has to be who, where, and what is hosting the Data Centers. Personally I believe the NA Data Center hosts are crap compare to the JP Data Center Hosts.

    Now I could be wrong with how the whole Data Center bit works, but from what I seen personally.... everything got better (server wise) after xfering to a JP Data Center.

    Plz, feel free to current me if I am wrong.

    Side Note: Ever notice how the NA Data Centers go down for X reasons while the JP Data Centers remain up? That alone should explain everything.
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