Urgently Change your Approach SE

[Divinemight]

I agree with these points, but I think your forum title is a little off. Their approach has largely been successful, and they have listened to the community on a number of issues.

I think as long as SE continues to try to improve, they don't have to get everything perfect the first time. This game has come a long way, and is def on the right path. (imo)

As the community we should continue to look for improvements that could be made, while understanding that not every game element can be made specifically for an individual and must benefit the whole.

What people do not understand is that this game isnt made by one united community. It is divided into two. The two communities are based on the different cultures and beleives. The things we like to see in this game doesnt mean they are also acceptable by other half of the community.

[Eekiki]

What people do not understand is that this game isnt made by one united community. It is divided into two. The two communities are based on the different cultures and beleives. The things we like to see in this game doesnt mean they are also acceptable by other half of the community.

Also, having a direction implies having a destination. Some design choices may not make sense right now, but maybe they will later on.

[Toodles]

Also, having a direction implies having a destination. Some design choices may not make sense right now, but maybe they will later on.

This I have to agree with, though I also agree with the OP.

They should get things a bit more "right at the start" so as to save-face & instill trust back into the players.

Slapping something in last-minute (Hunts) only serves to harm the player-bases' opinion of the Dev's & causes them not to put their faith in any longer.

If SE had better "foundational skills", I think it would go a long way.

[Toodles]

Oh wow...........

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/s...rchid=24973300

It looks like you are only necroing Parz3val's dead threads. Please dont tell me this is what I think it is...............

I saw his two threads on the main page & really loved his thoughts, so I scrolled through his started threads?

It's a "finally a poster I meet eye-to-eye with" endorsement, he has some spectacular ideas floating around.

[Aylis]

They should get things a bit more "right at the start" so as to save-face & instill trust back into the players.

Slapping something in last-minute (Hunts) only serves to harm the player-bases' opinion of the Dev's & causes them not to put their faith in any longer.

If SE had better "foundational skills", I think it would go a long way.

This could very well be what could be what if SE wasn't so adamantly against the idea of a PTS. That's their way to get things right at the start because it shows them what is going to happen once the patch reaches the live servers. We beta test games for this reason. The devs realize they're human and make mistakes and oversites and we help find them and point them out so they can be corrected or improved. If a game needs a beta test so why doesn't a content patch? That's kinda arrogant on the devs part and based on assumptions because they tested it everyone will play it like they did.

[Eekiki]

Slapping something in last-minute (Hunts) only serves to harm the player-bases' opinion of the Dev's & causes them not to put their faith in any longer.

Darn right, but the haphazard implementation of hunts (and personal housing) is a direct result of the player base saying, "We want this! We want this!" and the devs deviating from what they had planned beforehand so they can say, "Look! We're listening to you!"

Had the devs responded to the demand for open world NMs and personal housing by saying, "Hold up, we've got this whole list of content planned out already. Let us get this stuff finished before we move on to new stuff," Well...let's just say SE is damned if they do and damned if they don't.

[SDaemon]

I saw his two threads on the main page & really loved his thoughts, so I scrolled through his started threads?

It's a "finally a poster I meet eye-to-eye with" endorsement, he has some spectacular ideas floating around.

Those aren't exactly the words that come to mind when I think of Parz3val's threads....

[Spetsnaz]

I feel there is nothing wrong with the whole Atma grinding. It goes by really quickly tbh. Just most ppl make it feel like it takes to long.

As for The Hunt and PS3/4 players... Not much I can say about that besides this is an MMO and for as long as I played MMOs (yes, I know FFXI is on PS as well) I feel MMOs should stick to PCs and PCs only. I see it as their fault and we (PC) should not be punished for it. The game already has limits due to it being on the PS3/4.

Don't tell people how fast atma goes by just because itwwasn't a nightmare for you... Seriously I'm so tired of people with good luck telling everyone else how it is... You obviously have no clue, now go sit down.

As for hunts... Since when has it been an issue for PS4? I'm genuinely curious because I've never once had anything disappear in any hunt or Odin on mine.

[abzoluut]

Also, having a direction implies having a destination. Some design choices may not make sense right now, but maybe they will later on.

But that is why we want transparency. Since the days of FFXI, SE lacks this feature. They end up with this disingenuous image which often could have been avoided by simply tell us what is going on.

I also think they should hype more. It's nice to know what you can look forward to. When Ninja was announced back in June it was awesome. Not so much now when the info is the exact same every time we hear something about Ninja. Rants about housing? Throw people off. Boom! Leak something (for them minor) about 3.0. Community management is their task. I don't see it.

[DenariusJay]

Don't tell people how fast atma goes by just because itwwasn't a nightmare for you... Seriously I'm so tired of people with good luck telling everyone else how it is... You obviously have no clue, now go sit down.

ATMA is RNG nightmare at its finest. There is two polar experiences with the grind, those that had the luck and got the rolls relatively quickly (hence the reason they say "its fine don't change it), and those who been at for months and still stuck (hence the FML attitude to atma). It's a stupid, stupid system that can't possibly stay like this.