Urgently Change your Approach SE

[Koanyan]

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Hey WeiShan have a news for you , all ARR stuff are Tanaka work , he have said all of them (or maybe) when he have done XIV. So now let's stop the joke . Say me the idea come from some designer & programmer that was with him : yep .But Stuff that have hit on the game like 1 year after Tanaka go back to XI that is purely a joke right. Also if I remember right Tanaka have explain fail of XIV 1.0 by the fact that he wasn't managing the staff at all , and it letting them free to do what they want, so basically all that was in 1.0 wasn't the work of Tanaka if what he have said is true.

After the battle system that all 1.2X player love so much that have come after, have been released the 12-12-2011 with patch 1.20 so 1 year after Tanaka have leave , but yep Tanaka have done it.For those interested patch of 1.0 , Tanaka have resigned on december 2010.

[WeiShan]

and it letting them free to do what they want, so basically all that was in 1.0 wasn't the work of Tanaka if what he have said is true.

The developers had worked with Tanaka for years.Tanaka thought they knew how to do it.
& the job system, Faction leves,8 man dungeons,NMs in 1.0,all were better than the current design (thanks to Yoshida's theme park philosophy in ARR)
the fault of Tanaka was he released an unfinished product.

ARR is a complete product, but the game direction is meh

once again no. this is solely your opinion and not a fact.

the fact is I joined 3 FCs, they used to be very active, now all of them are dead silent

once again no. this is solely your opinion and not a fact.

proves what? you know 3 fcs that quit the game? pls just stop acting like you know better. if you don't like the game fine if you like 11 and how 1.0 was fine but it doesn't make the ff14 any less popular or successful.

from an investor's perspective,ARR is a success,
from a player's perspective, it's not

And until both investors and players deem ARR a failure, it'll continue on its path.

I am sure it will, just like those wow clones,die in one or two years
to me & my FC mates, the game is already dead,we don't want to play it anymore (my FCs aren't small, two of them had 100+memebers)

XI/XIV1.23 are still alive in some people's heart

[Musashidon]

The developers had worked with Tanaka for years.Tanaka though they knew how to do it.
& the job system, Faction leves,8 man dungeons,NMs in 1.0,all were better than the current design (thanks to Yoshida's theme park philosophy in ARR)
the fault of Tanaka was he released an unfinished product.

once again no. this is solely your opinion and not a fact.

the fact is I joined 3 FCs, they used to be very active, now all of them are dead silent

proves what? you know 3 fcs that quit the game? pls just stop acting like you know better. if you don't like the game fine if you like 11 and how 1.0 was fine but it doesn't make the ff14 any less popular or successful.

from an investor's perspective,ARR is a success,
from a player's perspective, it's not

once again no. it is successful if it wasn't people wouldn't play it.

your opinion isn't a fact how many times does someone have to say it before you will see this.

players like ARR.

[Exstal]

from an investor's perspective,ARR is a success,
from a player's perspective, it's not

And until both investors and players deem ARR a failure, it'll continue on its path.

[Beetle]

And until both investors and players deem ARR a failure, it'll continue on its path.

Launch of the game was good but patches afterwords were bad.
ARR was rushed out way too soon. Still have ton of bugs and lazy designs that were never fixed. 3.0 Will be the same.
I have a feeling we will see less of it in 3.0 mainly because it isn't that hard of a task as it was launching the game.

[Divinemight]

The developers had worked with Tanaka for years.Tanaka thought they knew how to do it.
& the job system, Faction leves,8 man dungeons,NMs in 1.0,all were better than the current design (thanks to Yoshida's theme park philosophy in ARR)
the fault of Tanaka was he released an unfinished product.

ARR is a complete product, but the game direction is meh

the fact is I joined 3 FCs, they used to be very active, now all of them are dead silent

from an investor's perspective,ARR is a success,
from a player's perspective, it's not

You do not represent me. I didnt give you any authorization to voice for me. I am perfectly happy with this game, especially after I have tried the Destiny. Do not self-proclaim yourself to speak for entire FF14 community.

[Teryaani]

the fact is I joined 3 FCs, they used to be very active, now all of them are dead silent

FCs fall apart all the time. That happens in every game

the game is already dead,we don't want to play it anymore (my FCs aren't small, two of them had 100+memebers)

You express how much you can't stand the game and yet, here you are. What difference does the size of the FC make? Almost none of the large "founding" FCs on Siren still exist. That's not because of players leaving the game, that's because of players leaving the FC.

I'm a bit disappointed with how every patch they come up with a way to bribe players into playing old content. It's like they know how boring the old content is, so instead of making new content, they implement something that "forces" us to play the old content (Animus, Nexus, exclusive mats that have a 0.0001% droprate).

I'm willing to put up with it, assuming it will stop with 3.0.

It won't, so prepare yourself now.

The developers have to find a way to keep players in queues so lower level players can get through the story mode duties, so they bribe us. I've got no problem with the bribery.

As your quoted bit implies, you aren't being forced to do it. If you want the reward for it, you have to tolerate the unpleasant bits.

edit: I won't argue that it's unpleasant. I'm only going to novus one relic and I'm wavering on whether or not to finish all class relics or not. Likely not.

[Dwill]

I am sure it will, just like those wow clones,die in one or two years
to me & my FC mates, the game is already dead,we don't want to play it anymore (my FCs aren't small, two of them had 100+memebers)

XI/XIV1.23 are still alive in some people's heart

Not like FFXIV: ARR is the MMO with the highest growth rate over the last year. Yep, totally dying in a year or two.

[Kardayel]

Not like FFXIV: ARR is the MMO with the highest growth rate over the last year. Yep, totally dying in a year or two.

I'll not say that the game is dying. But i want comment that sentence. The problem is not how fast a game grows, but how it grows. You can have 50 000 boring hallway dungeons, it'll still be boring dungeons. If devs don't come with new concepts (at least new for FFXIV) there the game will die.
I'll close by quoting Coco Chanel: "fashion becomes out of date, style never"

[Dwill]

I'll not say that the game is dying. But i want comment that sentence. The problem is not how fast a game grows, but how it grows. You can have 50 000 boring hallway dungeons, it'll still be boring dungeons. If devs don't come with new concepts (at least new for FFXIV) there the game will die.
I'll close by quoting Coco Chanel: "fashion becomes out of date, style never"

Your entire post is based on a subjective matter. If I had a dollar everytime I saw people commenting on how and when MMOs would die, I would have retired a long time ago.