Urgently Change your Approach SE

[cryptic_angel]

ATMA is RNG nightmare at its finest. There is two polar experiences with the grind, those that had the luck and got the rolls relatively quickly (hence the reason they say "its fine don't change it), and those who been at for months and still stuck (hence the FML attitude to atma). It's a stupid, stupid system that can't possibly stay like this.

At this point, you either have your atma or you play very slow. Plenty of people have multiple atmas completed. Its time to stop caring about a step in the relic that is mostly made difficult by play style.

People whine and complain about atma drops, yet they only do like two fates an hour and then come post on the forums about how horrible their luck is.

[Beetle]

Don't tell people how fast atma goes by just because itwwasn't a nightmare for you...

Takes about 1-2 weeks of farming fates. least 18-36 hours. Iv done them twice and yes its hell on earth. Each trial of the relic isnt even remotely fun. Basically is spam this content 500 times. I miss 1.0 relic quest. There needs to a brick wall preventing players doing this content again and that savage coil trials for Relic Weapon upgrade. I played with alot of unskilled Nova's players this week and there need to be a trial where you need skill. Heres a good challenge.

(2.4)
Obtain: Nexus--> lv50 Zodiak Weapon
base it around beastmen dallies/other content

(2.5)
For BRD: Obtain Allagan Bows from T5,T9,T13
Complete all Savage Coils from T1-T13
Reward: lv60 Zodiak Bow (Savage)

More then 70% of players would get stuck here cus they dont know how to do the content/get a team for it/know how to play the game.

[WeiShan]

Tanaka knows how to make a longevity MMO (XI/XIV 1.23),
a game that has depth,fun adventure experience. good memories with other players.
Yoshi doesn't

Theme park is not working anymore, because the design model is too simple / shallow in today's standard.

Unlike XIV2.0, FFXIV 1.0 became better and better after each patch.
we(XI/1.23 players) purchased 2.0 was not because 2.0 was great,
it was because 1.23 gave us the hope,the fun,and the good time we had, this is called "longevity "
we believed 2.0 will be even better than 1.23 so we bought the game.

see,even the 2.0 fan boy,are quitting now
we told you so
I had canceled my sub last week.

Don't ask me how to create a good MMO, if you don't know how, you shouldn't do this project.
Tanaka never ask people how to design a game,& XI was so good,
if you have to ask, you should listen to the most experienced MMO players

[SythSynner]

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Sounds to me you have bad luck. Good for you cup cake. <3 Just keep putting a little more work into it and you will get it someday. I just know it!

As for the disappearing mobs in hunts or Odin. No clue, doesn't happen to me. But seems to happen a lot to the PS players over PC players (unless they have crap computers).


NOTE: You want to know why it didn't take long for me to get my 12 Atma? Because I did not give up. I have seen ppl in chat come and go complaining they never get it and they were only there for less then an hour or so. It's their own fault for not sticking to it and giving up.


Also did you even read every post before you posted?

Personally the Atma and especially the Books are nothing when it comes to grinding. If you think these are hard, you should check out a French made game called Wakfu. Currently 160 levels, at a point (normally between Lv125-130) it would take a full day or two to just get a single level in. Above that if you want a new gear you have to deal with drop rates of 0.1%, 0.3%, 1%, 3% for over 95% of every gear in the game. (Which makes Atma's 5% a joke.)

Idk, I know ppl have some bad luck and that really truly sucks for them, but they will at some point make it even easier for everyone to get Atmas.

On the side note: Awhile back I looked up some info on Atmas drop rates and the likes. Many players have reported that going solo (Chocobo is ok) always seemed to make the Atmas drop faster. I personally only ran solo with Chocobo. So if you want to test your luck run solo. Don't group with others. It worked for me, maybe it will work for others as well. Wish anyone that still needs them the best of luck and I hope this info would be of some help!

This is also another reason why I stated it was fast and easy. Play this game and see if you make it past Lv75.

[Koanyan]

Tanaka knows how to make a longevity MMO (XI/XIV 1.23),

Only to inform you Tanaka have leave the head of XIV on December 2010 after the Bad release of the game on September 2010 and on December 2010 Yoshi was make the new producer with Tanaka going back to FFXI. So yep Tanaka have prolly designed some stuff coming after yoshi come in , but not all till the end.
After I think some ppl have "Rose Tinted Glass" , yes XI was a good MMO but have got crap point , like the lvling process that could take day to get 1 invite , take you 30 min to go there , and then have party disband on you.
The fact that if you don't have linkshell you couldn't do anything at all. After XIV is a good MMO too , but he have is crap point like any other MMO out there.

[Divinemight]

ATMA is RNG nightmare at its finest. There is two polar experiences with the grind, those that had the luck and got the rolls relatively quickly (hence the reason they say "its fine don't change it), and those who been at for months and still stuck (hence the FML attitude to atma). It's a stupid, stupid system that can't possibly stay like this.

I see that you are complaing about RNG that is used by all mmo. FF14 RNG is a nightmare? You really should try Destiny's RNG system. I hope you will enjoy the fun of shooting a spawn cave of lvl6s the whole day and wait for their RNG system to give your some legendary items. Also you get rip off again by their RNG system agian at the NPC becuase that legendary item you got may turn out to be a piece of green item.

FF14 RNG system is fine.

[WeiShan]

Only to inform you Tanaka have leave the head of XIV on December 2010 after the Bad release of the game on September 2010 and on December 2010 Yoshi was make the new producer with Tanaka going back to FFXI. So yep Tanaka have prolly designed some stuff coming after yoshi come in , but not all till the end.
.

XIV1.x contents: af quests,moogle keystone grinding,hamlet defense,8man dungeons,skirmish,faction leves,NMs
were not designed by Yoshi,except the meteor event

they were the original plan of 1.0,
1.0 failed it was because it released too early

and Yoshi decided to water them down,then you got the lackluster,badly implemented af quests /guild leves/4man dungeons/hunts in 2.0

[Khaoticsuccubus]

Tanaka knows how to make a longevity MMO (XI/XIV 1.23),
a game that has depth,fun adventure experience. good memories with other players.
Yoshi doesn't

Theme park is not working anymore, because the design model is too simple / shallow in today's standard.

Unlike XIV2.0, FFXIV 1.0 became better and better after each patch.
we(XI/1.23 players) purchased 2.0 was not because 2.0 was great,
it was because 1.23 gave us the hope,the fun,and the good time we had, this is called "longevity "
we believed 2.0 will be even better than 1.23 so we bought the game.

see,even the 2.0 fan boy,are quitting now
we told you so
I had canceled my sub last week.

Don't ask me how to create a good MMO, if you don't know how, you shouldn't do this project.
Tanaka never ask people how to design a game,& XI was so good,
if you have to ask, you should listen to the most experienced MMO players

Would like to point out that 1.23 was YoshiP's attempt at fixing Tanaka's train wreck.

I always find it funny how many doom and gloom posts there can be. Going on and on about how the game's dying, players unsubbing in droves, and how 1.23 n 11 had it right... and yet, FF14 is currently sitting at 10 times the subs it had prior to 2.0.

I dunno bout you but seems to me YoshiP knows exactly what he's doing.



EDIT: My bad. WeiShan post. Shouldn't have even bothered. /sigh

[WeiShan]

Would like to point out that 1.23 was YoshiP's attempt at fixing Tanaka's train wreck.

I always find it funny how many doom and gloom posts there can be. Going on and on about how the game's dying, players unsubbing in droves, and how 1.23 n 11 had it right... and yet, FF14 is currently sitting at 10 times the subs it had prior to 2.0.

I dunno bout you but seems to me YoshiP knows exactly what he's doing.


EDIT: My bad. WeiShan post. Shouldn't have even bothered. /sigh

So you mean Beats headphones/Mcdonalds are good things because they sold a lot ?

guess you never heard or own some Stax or the Orpheus HE90

[Divinemight]

XIV1.x contents: af quests,moogle keystone grinding,hamlet defense,8man dungeons,skirmish,faction leves,NMs
were not designed by Yoshi,except the meteor event

they were the original plan of 1.0,
1.0 failed it was because it released too early

and Yoshi decided to water them down,then you got the lackluster af quests /guild leves/4man dungeons/hunts in 2.0

I know you can read Japanse, read it yourself, the Japanese reaction about Tanaka:

http://awabi.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/ogame/1366300543/l50

This is another source:

http://wiki.ffo.jp/html/10163.html

He is a very self-centred producer. His managment on his development team of original FF14 1.0 is also problematic. He is also a producer got caught of going annon on 2ch to attack his own player base. He maybe your idol, but to many of us, he is the one guilty for FF14 1.0's stupid designs.

He kept his nickname as バ開発 (Stupid Developer) to the day he resigned from Square Enix.