The Monk Temple Reborn

[ZzPixie]

i do 340+ every week, continuous numbers, not merged. merged is higher but seems artificial to me.
i've been 'BiS' for a couple weeks now, and before that was only missing earrings which made slight difference, but nothing major of course, have been 340+ for months now.

sugoiii sugoiiiiiiii soo gg!

[THETRUESELF]

T8-DPS-push-question:
Is it better to save up Howling Fist for Dread or should I used it whenever it's ready? (which would be 10+ [?] seconds sooner before the first dread)

I also like to use Rockbreaker during Dread as well, but single bard and TP says "Nope!". x(

[Ricdeau]

T8-DPS-push-question:
Is it better to save up Howling Fist for Dread or should I used it whenever it's ready? (which would be 10+ [?] seconds sooner before the first dread)

I also like to use Rockbreaker during Dread as well, but single bard and TP says "Nope!". x(

Hitting the Dread and the boss is optimal if you aren't waiting or that long, but the different isn't going to make or break anything. Rockbreaker, however, is just not worth it with two mobs keep Snap Punching and Demolishing away. Try to get Demo up ASAP on the Dread when it comes out and flip back to Avatar to refresh Demo/ToD when necessary if they are going to fall while killing the Dread.

Both scenarios aren't going to make much of a difference in the long run for DPS, but the TP drain from Rockbreaker will make an impact especially if you running single bard and they are having to Ballad and Foe's. In this case it's best to keep the need for Paeon to a minimum.

[THETRUESELF]

Hitting the Dread and the boss is optimal if you aren't waiting or that long, but the different isn't going to make or break anything. Rockbreaker, however, is just not worth it with two mobs keep Snap Punching and Demolishing away. Try to get Demo up ASAP on the Dread when it comes out and flip back to Navigator to refresh Demo/ToD when necessary if they are going to fall while killing the Dread.

Both scenarios aren't going to make much of a difference in the long run for DPS, but the TP drain from Rockbreaker will make an impact especially if you running single bard and they are having to Ballad and Foe's. In this case it's best to keep the need for Paeon to a minimum.

'sup! Nice to know about the Rockbreaker. I never really have the chance to test it, because -u know- single bard. I did once, and runned out of TP and was OoT for a long, long time, lol. I'm actually aiming for the 500-DPS-mark, that's why I'm asking about "little" things like Howling Fist. (And also I'm not really the theorycrafter type. ) Though we always have Paeon up whenever I / the bard / the drg needs it. There's no much room for Foe (only at beginning of the fight) or Ballad.

[Ricdeau]

'sup! Nice to know about the Rockbreaker. I never really have the chance to test it, because -u know- single bard. I did once, and runned out of TP and was OoT for a long, long time, lol. I'm actually aiming for the 500-DPS-mark, that's why I'm asking about "little" things like Howling Fist. (And also I'm not really the theorycrafter type. ) Though we always have Paeon up whenever I / the bard / the drg needs it. There's no much room for Foe (only at beginning of the fight) or Ballad.

500 is going to be hard to hit unless you got a second monk to do DK for you. Highest I've gotten on T8 was around 480 (single monk). I also try to make sure I don't let DK drop Avatar while the Dread is up so I'll swap back to refresh that on him and then back to the Dread if that situation comes up too. That way I don't get out of my groove when the Dread dies.

[THETRUESELF]

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I know it's possible though even if it's hard. My highest was 481 with 2 pots/bufffood/single monk/single bard/115 weap/wrong equipped ramuh ring (have 1x ilvl100 piece though and with Nexus soon, it should boost a bit more soon.). I was rather lucky that I didn't miss without the HA ring. xD And with a second monk it wouldnt be a challenge anymore. :c

Ok. Normally I keep BS the dread instead of DK the boss. I actually just want to attempt the 500-DPS (since I don't have infinite pots and I'm way too lazy to craft them again) as soon I have Nexus/my last BiS piece. Sadly two pieces won't make 19 DPS more, so... I asked for rather trivial things like the Rockbreaker/howling fist. Is it better to use Pots as soon as dread is up (buffed dots on the boss and then going for dread [with buffed Howling]) or should I put in on my opener?

[Ricdeau]

I know it's possible though even if it's hard. My highest was 481 with 2 pots/bufffood/single monk/single bard/115 weap/wrong equipped ramuh ring (have 1x ilvl100 piece though and with Nexus soon, it should boost a bit more soon.). I was rather lucky that I didn't miss without the HA ring. xD And with a second monk it wouldnt be a challenge anymore. :c

Ok. Normally I keep BS the dread instead of DK the boss. I actually just want to attempt the 500-DPS (since I don't have infinite pots and I'm way too lazy to craft them again) as soon I have Nexus/my last BiS piece. Sadly two pieces won't make 19 DPS more, so... I asked for rather trivial things like the Rockbreaker/howling fist. Is it better to use Pots as soon as dread is up (buffed dots on the boss and then going for dread [with buffed Howling]) or should I put in on my opener?

Sadly, I too ran out of STR pots and am too lazy to make more so I can't really comment too much on optimal placement of them. I'd definitely delay the opener one at least enough that you get a buffed Demo and Howling Fist off on the Dread. After that I don't really remember if the second Dread will typically spawn before or after your pot CD is up. If it's ready do the same thing on the second Dread. As for keeping DK on the Avatar while the Dread is up, I usually just make sure I get a DK back up on it by the last full combo rotation I can do on the Dread. I typically try to keep my usual combo flow in tact so I don't randomly get thrown off by a misstep.

My run that was in the 480 range happened with good crits. Normally I run 465-470, and any run higher than that I'm getting lucky on crits. However, I still have i110 weapon, and I've had terrible luck with Coil drops so I'm still missing a few BiS pieces.

[THETRUESELF]

The 481~ one I had was actually the run I tried for 500. (It was as soon I got the 115 weap), I normally range around 460~ as well (without pots/nq bufffood I got from retainer lol). :c
Hmm I test various things out today then. Thank you. :c

[Aiyza]

Yeah, that's pretty good for your ilvl, but why are you using Black Truffle? You don't have enough crit or det to exceed what Buttons give unless you're just after the extra +4 vit. I'd just save some money or resources and stick with Buttons since they are cheap and easy to make. But your DPS is fine.

Edit - Actually going back through some logs 441 on T6 is really good. I mean there's a lot of luck involved in that, but in a pretty optimal setup 441 is excellent.

Thank you for your reply!! Oh, I didn't know about buttons...thanks for the tip

[LukeyP666]

Hello! I switch to Monk on Turn 8 so that we run solo Tank, and as that seems to be a good discussion point at the moment, I thought I'd ask a few questions.

My best DPS was 431 last night on Turn 8. I'm i107 currently and (not sure if I logged out on Monk for you to be able to check my gear on the Lodestone) have the following gear:

Glanzfaust
HA Headgear of Striking
Gloam Tabard
Gloam Gauntlets
HA Belt of Striking (waiting on Sands to restore my Weathered Gloam Belt)
Gloam Brais
Gloam Boots
Ruby Choker (Det IV, Acc IV, Vit IV, Vit IV, Det III)
Gloam Earrings
Weathered Gloam Bracelets
Gloam Ring
Judgement Ring of Slaying
HQ Buttons in a Blanket

I use Perfect Balance at the start, and I tend to sit on my first Internal Release, Blood for Blood and weave-ins for the first Dread, then use both buffs between the first and second, which means I sit on Internal Release again for a little bit before the second spawns. Blood for Blood comes off cooldown just as it spawns, so I have both buffs for both the first two, and our DRG LB3's the third one killing it outright, so I just stay on Avatar.

I always make sure to pop my buffs when in my final combo before the Dreads spawn, and apply buffed Demolish and Touch of Death (sometimes clipping them a fair bit) before switching. I've been experimenting and using Fracture on Avatar before switching as well, but not sure if this is making much difference. I also tried using Potent Poisoning Potions last night, but we wiped a few times before killing it, and I'd exhausted my supply of them when we finally did.

I also tend to use Rockbreaker at the end of both combos (as I normally deal the final blow with the second one) and then switch back to Avatar, and reapply Dragon Kick, Demolish and Touch of Death. I use my first X-Potion of Strength during the first Dread when I have all of my buffs up and before using my weave-ins, and then a second one as soon as it's off cooldown, normally trying to sync it with Blood for Blood or Internal Release, depending on which one is closest to coming back off.

Besides this I manage to keep the basics - Demolish every third combo and I clip Touch of Death by about two seconds after every fourth combo (I know you don't have to wait until you finish the combo, but it's easier for me to keep track of it).

I don't do Landmines, but I do Towers and also am first in line for dealing with Ballistic Missile as I'm pretty quick to react to what we need to do.

We have two Bards as well, so TP is not normally an issue.

Any tips or advice on how to push it a bit more would be greatly appreciated