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  1. #361
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    Philia Felice
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Here's what I do:

    Shoulder Tackle > PB > Demolish> B4B > Snap > IR > Snap > (STR-Pot if I'm going to pot) > Twin Snakes > DK > Howling > ToD> Steel > Bootshine > True > Demolish

    Pretty solid opener. ToD and your second Demolish get fully buffed by all CDs, and IMO the CDs naturally come back at a good timing to use on cooldown with this rotation. The only one you have to be wary of (and should be wary of in general) is IR will come back right before Bootshine by default, in which case you throttle it. With enough SS (mainly from HA pants and weapon), you will get it back after Bootshine which is makes it simpler.
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  2. #362
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    Aiyza Tenebrae
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    Behemoth
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Sleigh View Post
    Here's what I do:

    Shoulder Tackle > PB > Demolish> B4B > Snap > IR > Snap > (STR-Pot if I'm going to pot) > Twin Snakes > DK > Howling > ToD> Steel > Bootshine > True > Demolish

    Pretty solid opener. ToD and your second Demolish get fully buffed by all CDs, and IMO the CDs naturally come back at a good timing to use on cooldown with this rotation. The only one you have to be wary of (and should be wary of in general) is IR will come back right before Bootshine by default, in which case you throttle it. With enough SS (mainly from HA pants and weapon), you will get it back after Bootshine which is makes it simpler.
    I know this is probably a random question or there might be no reason behind it, but is there a reason why you do howling fist before ToD instead of the other way around? Thanks for the help.
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  3. #363
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    Jess Victorix
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aiyza View Post
    question about using howling before tod sorry char limit at 1000...
    To cut short the animation of howling doing tod then using steel peak to shorten tod animation

    but for real my burst opener rotation numbers doesnt lie 500+ dps sometimes more depending on crits seen 550 the other day lol

    Touch of death being delayed till all buffs are up is 100% worth it ive tested it the other way round and thats a dps loss. Also you really should be using b4b before IR you wanna have the cool down with the longest time going first so IR is up the whole time b4b is going, Not to mention the cooldown on b4b is longer than IR so its to have b4b going first for that reason too you want all ur off global cooldown moves constantly revolving they should never be left unused for long periods of time.

    That being said im always looking to improve if someone knows a better way (numbers please) please do share with the rest of the class ^^
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  4. #364
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    Damaru Damasu
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 60
    PB> 5 specific attacks
    enjoy
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  5. #365
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    Joey Mi'ihen
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    Here is the opener and rotation I use: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1ZL3bSEsvs

    I'm sure there is a more optimal one but it's what I'm used to do. Also, as you can see, you can use howling and peek in 1 CD and only lose a few milliseconds.
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    Last edited by Joeymtl; 10-10-2014 at 10:30 PM.

  6. #366
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    Aiyza Tenebrae
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    For a non-Pb opener, I'm assuming we still use ToD as an opener or wait till gl3???

    And for a non-pb opener, should I use howling fist and steel peak as soon as I can or wait for some gl stacks? Thanks again guys. I used to wait for stacks, but not sure if that is also a dps loss by waiting to use those cooldowns.

    lastly, should i wait to use my buffs (Ir and bfb) only when im in gl3..or it doesnt matter
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    Last edited by Aiyza; 10-11-2014 at 12:06 PM.

  7. #367
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    Damaru Damasu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joeymtl View Post
    Here is the opener and rotation I use: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1ZL3bSEsvs

    I'm sure there is a more optimal one but it's what I'm used to do. Also, as you can see, you can use howling and peek in 1 CD and only lose a few milliseconds.
    there are many errors
    no1 should ever follow this
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  8. #368
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZzPixie View Post
    there are many errors
    no1 should ever follow this
    You'd come off as less of a troll if you actually pointed out what you'd improve and be constructive.
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    Last edited by Joeymtl; 10-11-2014 at 05:26 PM.

  9. #369
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joeymtl View Post
    You'd come off as less of a troll if you actually pointed out what you'd improve and be consructive.
    most cases trolling is not honesty
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  10. #370
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    Jess Victorix
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joeymtl View Post
    You'd come off as less of a troll if you actually pointed out what you'd improve and be constructive.
    Its ok man let me give my 2 cents.
    I would avoid delaying getting in to greased lightning 3 so to start dont touch of death instead perfect balance Demolish > Snap > Snap so in 3 moves you will be in greased lightning 3 which means that all ur next moves will be buffed with full Greased lightning here ill post my opener again just incase you missed it (Perfect Balance) - Demolish - Snap - snap - Bfb - Twin snakes - IR - dragon kick (Perfect Balance ends) - howling fist - touch of death - steel peak - boot shine - true strike - demolish - X Str pot - dragon kick - twin snakes - snap

    That way all your Cooldowns are boosted including Touch of death its a big difference in dps to what you're doing i promise (:
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