So resetting's against the rules now?

[Welsper59]

This group doesn't wait, at all. It waits for an announcement, gets there and claims as soon as they dismount.

To be honest, that's how it should be. Even hunt groups portray that exact mentality. Who's the one that shouts in the zone? Not the hunt group, it's the solo player. Members of the LS/FC might tell their friends about something, and that's acceptable by everyone, but there's still the exclusive nature that if you're not part of them, you have little rights of say on the matter. Which is where the flaw starts to come to light. The concern is only for those that are part of your circle, even if it is 100 people, it's still a concern for ONLY your own. Telling or implying that a smaller outside group essentially has no right to pull something, when your specific circle is not around, is bullying and promoting a monopoly by only you and yours. You may not see it that way because you're part of the larger group, but it IS seen that way by the smaller party. Just like with actual RL bullying, the one doing it often does not see it that way, despite the clear indication that it is by the victim. Obviously, this is a video game and not essentially the same as bullying IRL, but the similarities really are evident.

I never suggested everyone at all, it's a sliding scale, the longer its held without pull the better. The person who gets hate to reset it by the way would have gold contribution anyway. He/she has nothing to gain from the reset itself other than the respect of the server. And yes, parties I've been in have reset mobs that were pulled too early even though we were all there for full credit.

Wrong in that max contribution is retained after a reset. You need to meet the requirements again after a reset to achieve max reward. I agree about the waiting if the mob were neutral while everyone was there. But if you got there late, and a different party is well into the fight itself, you're not as righteous as you might think you are if you decide to reset so that your group can get there for full credit. Now if you admit to it being a bad/messed up action for doing this, then I can just drop the argument on it because... there's no need to go further. If however, you still view this as a purely positive thing, then wow...

The intent to disrupt another customer's game play does not require that the attempt to disrupt another customer's game play was successful. This could still be reported and investigated.

This is very close to what a lot of us wanted to see said. Thank you.