Quote Originally Posted by Shake0615 View Post
But they don't want to grind the Wolves' Den for an advantage in PvP and damn it they don't want anyone else to have an advantage over them! Their position is simply hypocritical. inconsistent and untenable. Not a single one of them would claim that PvE should be "equal footing." In fact, most of the posters have spent their time arguing ad nauseum about how pissed they are that CT2 will drop Sands/Oils of Time or how the Echo Buff is making this game "easy mode for teh casuals oh noes!" This is hypocrisy at its finest.
Actually I think many people feel frontlines and wolves den are SEPARATE TYPES OF PVP. No one that I have seen has cared about morale/gear/grinding in wolves den. Thats what arena pvp is for, add in some leaderboards - seasons and rankings etc. and have at arena! Its all about whos the best there.

Large scale pvp or objective pvp is a different TYPE of pvp totally. Until you can realize that you wont even understand the rationale at all. One shouldn't depend on the other. They both should have reasons for doing them, and different types of players will do them with some overlap of pvp'ers who like both.