In Game DPS Meter

[SarcasmMisser]

All this thread proves like every other thread is SE's current stance is right. Don't ask, don't tell.

Everything is provided on your own screen. The moment you push it out to the world, in a justified or unjustified attempt to push your weight around, it's harassment zone, just don't do it and everything is right in the world.

Under the current policy my policy (though I don't pf much, it's been months since I've had to do this) is to disband and reform with the bad player excluded. He never gets any feedback on why he gets removed from groups, because we are not allowed to tell. This is much better right?

Also when someone talks about optimal play without numbers I just nod my head slowly and say suuuure. Like in the real world, a hypothesis is proven with hard evidence not an argument. If you don't parse you are not a min maxer, don't pretend to be one.

[skaterger]

I wish finger pointing and accountability were banned in this game. I could go into t7 and stone everyone repeatedly without fear of being kicked. How fun!

[Nicobo]

Will it be good to add fight result at the end of the content ?
So everyone got an idea for the data and since the content has ended, no one will be kicked.

[KoujiMoreno]

Don't know why people keep making these threads. Yes, parsers can give feedback as to why bad players are playing bad, but it doesn't matter. They'll feel singled out and SE doesn't want players singled out for any reason. Just find a group of players that are good and play with them. Exclude the bad players from your group, maybe they'll catch on that they need to improve when they can't see the newer content.

....or maybe SE will nerf fights for them.

Either way you won't have to deal with them.

[Diavolo]

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Numbers don't make you a better player or teach you to show restraint when need be. It's pointless to me, but different strokes for different folks.

[OPneedNerfs]

Doesn't matter. Since SE doesn't want to release an official damage tracker, people will just use whatever 3rd party tracker available and single out players based on that data. I don't see how a 3rd party damage tracker will do less damage than an official one. At least for the official one, the numbers are reliable. Either way, people are going to be singled out. If you're bad and choose to stay bad, nothing will prevent you from being singled out. If you wish to improve, damage trackers are a great way to help.

Pretty much anyone advocating the "parsers = harassment" want the bads to stay bad. There's no other argument for it.

[Tule]

Numbers don't make you a better player or teach you to show restraint when need be. It's pointless to me, but different strokes for different folks.

If your job is DPS how is doing more DPS "pointless". I understand what you're saying, and I agree with you to a point. I'd rather have someone who isn't the best dps in the world but know hows to dodge, than a dps machine that can't. Or even just a nice human being that talks. But to say it is "pointless" is just lying to yourself.

[Diavolo]

If your job is DPS how is doing more DPS "pointless". I understand what you're saying, and I agree with you to a point. I'd rather have someone who isn't the best dps in the world but know hows to dodge, than a dps machine that can't. Or even just a nice human being that talks. But to say it is "pointless" is just lying to yourself.

I didn't say doing more DPS is pointless. I said the meter is pointless. Why did you put your own insinuation in there?

[Tule]

I didn't say doing more DPS is pointless. I said the meter is pointless. Why did you put your own insinuation in there?

Because what you quoted was giving you reasons why there should be a meter. All about doing more dps. And then you said that doesn't make you a better player. So it was pretty heavily implied..

[Diavolo]

Because what you quoted was giving you reasons why there should be a meter. All about doing more dps. And then you said that doesn't make you a better player. So it was pretty heavily implied..

I don't imply things. I just say them and I didn't say doing more damage was pointless. That's just moronic beyond belief. Seeing numbers wouldn't matter. It doesn't teach you anything, really. I personally don't need a meter to know if I'm doing my part, but as I said, different strokes for different folks.