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    Starrywisdom's Avatar
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    Starry Wisdom
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 50
    The issue is not so much making something a grind or tedious. It's when you gate something behind an RNG with an EXTREMELY LOW percentage. Technically speaking; someone could be done with the atma stage in under an hour; or they could NEVER be done. Due to how the game is coded. The book stage at least allows you to progress; at your own pace. The atma stage is ABSOLUTELY ATROCIOUS design, and I can't take anyone serious who thinks otherwise.I won't even beat around the bush, I'm raging hard. I spent 8 hours in Outter La today; with NO PROGRESSION OF ANY KIND. Seals? capped for an eternity(bought over 2,000 venture coins already -- totes cool). Gil? covers my repair costs. Companion exp? lol.

    It worries me if they think this is acceptable design by any means.
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    Chaseless's Avatar
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    Limsa
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    Character
    Stoic Beast
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Starrywisdom View Post
    The issue is not so much making something a grind or tedious. It's when you gate something behind an RNG with an EXTREMELY LOW percentage. Technically speaking; someone could be done with the atma stage in under an hour; or they could NEVER be done. Due to how the game is coded. The book stage at least allows you to progress; at your own pace. The atma stage is ABSOLUTELY ATROCIOUS design, and I can't take anyone serious who thinks otherwise.I won't even beat around the bush, I'm raging hard. I spent 8 hours in Outter La today; with NO PROGRESSION OF ANY KIND. Seals? capped for an eternity(bought over 2,000 venture coins already -- totes cool). Gil? covers my repair costs. Companion exp? lol.

    It worries me if they think this is acceptable design by any means.
    You are trying /way/ to hard.
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    Raenryong's Avatar
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    Serefina Solfyre
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    Sargatanas
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Chaseless View Post
    You are trying /way/ to hard.
    S/he's also right.
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    Biuma Arvinda
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Starrywisdom View Post
    The book stage at least allows you to progress; at your own pace.
    Actually, the Trials of the Braves are almost as bad, because they require you to complete 3 specific FATEs each (so 27 in total) that are buried beneath other FATEs in the areas, meaning you have to grind more FATEs after the Atma grind, and have to be lucky to be in time for them to pop AND get gold AND succeed in them, furthermore made tricky if they're in areas like Coerthas or Mor Dhona where people aren't FATE-grinding for Atma and you basically have to solo them, not on a job of your choosing but with the one you're upgrading the relic for.

    Funny, that.
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