Feedback Regarding the Relic Upgrade Quest

[Bizniztyme]

that may be true, but at least when you make a Legendary in GW2 that is by far the best weapon in the game, and it will always be in every future update.
Relic Animus (so you have to do the 12 fates + 13500 Mythology, that is WAY more than a Legendary in GW2) is 15 levels under the best weapon in the game. It's not even close to the best weapon in the game. Not to mention that in the near future (well, it's already hard) nobody will do the basic Relic quest anymore.

A grind is a grind, doesn't matter if it's for the best weapon or not. People ask for long term goals, not they got it. Please enjoy.

[Tano]

A grind is a grind, doesn't matter if it's for the best weapon or not. People ask for long term goals, not they got it. Please enjoy.

Long goal for a good weapon. Between Relic Animus is sometimes weaker then Leviathan Extreme weapon and very close to Twintania weapon. It's pointless. Only a complete retard would bother.

It's just a bad (and probably random) gear progression design. Don't even try to blame the users. They were at rage when thay made Twintania weapons 5 levels above Relic+1, and asked to make Relic+1 harder instead of (relatively) nerfing it.

Not they made it harder AND they nerfed it to the point that is weaker compared to weapons easier to get.

[Bizniztyme]

Long goal for a good weapon. Between Relic Animus is sometimes weaker then Leviathan Extreme weapon and very close to Twintania weapon. It's pointless. Only a complete retard would bother.

Looks like you're calling everyone bitching about not getting these ATMAs retards, so nice of you.

[Tano]

Looks like you're calling everyone bitching about not getting these ATMAs retards, so nice of you.

Can't think of a reason different from vanity to get them. And I think that if you spend 225 hours for a vanity weapon you are a retard. My opinion man, but to be honest I believe it could even be diagnosed.

Leviathan weapons are just as strong as Relic"+4", and probably High Allagan are even easier to get if you have a good group (and they are 15 levels above). Pretty sure that even pugging would require less than 225 hours of effort.

Start doing it and look at next expansion to come just before you finish farming for it, introducing ilv 200 weapons. I could justify you if this quest was at least fun, but it isn't.

[Clavaat]

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I think you are misunderstanding something. The devs have said that they plan on incrementally improving the Zodiak weapons in the next few patches (including possible customizable stats). The reason to do the quest now is to prepare for future content. The other options are only faster if you have bad luck, and you are able to clear the content (they are much harder). The Zodiak weapons are an alternative to these to allow players of different skill levels the ability to see new content. They may not be as efficient, and will take a much longer time than people who were able to farm higher lvl content, but they have a chance of doing it.

[Gormogon]

You mean it's not handed down freely and I have to actually work for it? Nerf irelia...I mean...whatever.

[Sunarie]

You mean it's not handed down freely and I have to actually work for it? Nerf irelia...I mean...whatever.

We obviously have different definitions of work :/ Waiting in a spot for a fate to spawn whilest tabbing out, and having netflix running on half my screen while I run around spamming flash mindlessly doesn't really count as work to me. Just mind-numbing tedium I thought I'd gotten away from.... oh well, it is what it is. Let's not pretend it's hard though.

Edited to add:

Wow lots of people quoting me saying this is what players asked for. I, for one, did not ever ask for more fates (and I never would). I have no problem with a questline, or item taking a long time to get. Just because FFXI or older MMOs may have had mind-numbing grinds, or some other MMOs have worse grinds, doesn't make grinding fates for RNG loot a good idea. What most people (that I saw) were asking for was a fun and engaging open world. A reason to go out that wasn't boring, and would actually bring people together. Fates don't do that, never really have done that well. As I said it is what it is.. but it's not challenging. It's not what people asked for. It's just more of SE trying to force Fates down our throats. People aren't even grouping for these things for the most part. At least not on my server.

[Clavaat]

We obviously have different definitions of work :/ Waiting in a spot for a fate to spawn whilest tabbing out, and having netflix running on half my screen while I run around spamming flash mindlessly doesn't really count as work to me. Just mind-numbing tedium I thought I'd gotten away from.... oh well, it is what it is. Let's not pretend it's hard though.

Wait...this sounds like...FFXI?!?!! You mean...what everyone wanted?! *gasp*

[Tupsi]

Wait...this sounds like...FFXI?!?!! You mean...what everyone wanted?! *gasp*

The irony is, the XIV community was so adamant the "FFXI crowd" is so small that SE would and should never listen to them, so no it's far from XI because even in XI you could proc 100% drop rate on those Atmas.

xD

Seriously though, people still don't understand the concept of keeping people busy until the next patch? They did this with LotA with the weekly lockout.

[Clavaat]

The irony is, the XIV community was so adamant the "FFXI crowd" is so small that SE would and should never listen to them, so no it's far from XI because even in XI you could proc 100% drop rate on those Atmas.

xD

Seriously though, people still don't understand the concept of keeping people busy until the next patch? They did this with LotA with the weekly lockout.

I just like that there are options. Don't want to farm FATE's? Ok, go do Leviathan. Don't want to do Leviathan? Ok, go do Masterworks. Don't want to do any of those? Farm T5. The amount of time actually end up spending will be about the same. Some of these are definitely harder than others, just less time-consuming. Some ways will be faster for some people depending on their schedule.