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  1. #1341
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaels View Post
    another salty whiner that dismisses an opposing opinion as a troll. moving on

    Keep in mind this is a "feedback" thread. If you can't handle opposing feedback, you're the one that's in the wrong.

    And do please tell me how I'm trying to convince people they're wrong about being upset. My point was that the myth increase will likely save more time. Keep in mind I said likely because I am aware there are cases where people are unlucky and maybe spent 3000 FATEs with no Atmas.
    point 1 finger at us and 4 at yourself? you are the one not handling feedback. myth increase save more time for book, but atma have no change? giving us more myth are useless when we don't even clear to animus?
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  2. #1342
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaels View Post
    I bet he didn't even read my posts, because I never said anything dismissing people's complaints about Atmas. Just that the book portion takes longer and that increasing myth will likely save more time. In the end it's still an overall change to the Animus questline that saves everyone an equal and significant amount of time completing it.

    It takes a special kind of stupid to get defensive over something I never said. Not to mention that I was attacked first, but then again people like him feel attacked and offended when someone comes along and posts something they don't agree with.
    sadly i did, and sadly i told u it is pointless increasing myth when they don't fix atma in the first place
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  3. #1343
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    Quote Originally Posted by Licus View Post
    There is alternatives to atmas and the entire relic quest line. People just can't be bothered to do coil or farm levi ex. If people don't want to do the alternatives, they have to put up with the grind of atmas.




    I really enjoyed the atma part of the relic and hated the books of the braves. I would have rather farmed 24 atmas in exchange for only doing half of those awful books.

    At least with fates for the atma portion, you are out in the open world experiencing variability. The books are a nightmare in contrast. It takes three hours of non-stop farming brayflox with 5 1/2 min runs to get a book and then you get to wait hours for three specific fates to pop up.
    before ppl bring in the alternative suggestion again. u cannot skip 1 part of the game in favour of the other.. thats what happen to fate and thats what happen to us now
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  4. #1344
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaels View Post
    Or more like there is no indication in any of my posts of trying to convince anyone they're wrong about being upset.

    People sure love to equate "Y is worse than X" with "X is fine how it is".

    lol logic

    And no side can be reasonably called a minority without data/proof to back it up. For all we know, the majority of players may not even care either way. And the ones that don't care aren't going to go out of their way to post feedback saying so.
    and why do u care in posting here now? u are moving from constructive feedback to verbal harassment to prove your point?
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  5. #1345
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldhawk View Post
    I don't think it's a matter of fun vs content or fun vs anything actually. I know this is supposed to upgrade multiple times but it's a GOD AWFUL idea to do it the way they are. I don't mind it not being the absolute strongest, but there's at least 2 weapons in this game stronger than animus... let alone the others. But who in their right mind thought it was a good idea to require SO MUCH before atma weapon, then when it comes time to grind out the atma, you spend hundreds of hours collecting these items which other people can get instantly if they're lucky just so you can upgrade the LOOk of your weapon.

    That has to be the part that gets me the most. Atma and animus are exactly the same ilvl, but animus has stats of an ilvl 90 weapon but it ilvl 100. Wut. Then you go through hell getting 13.5k myth and it stays the same ilvl and gets a tiny boost in stats.

    That's the thing that gets me. All this work for a weapon that is just a collectors item at best.
    Tbh, thats all relic is about.. collectors item.

    lets face it, everyone is throwing u alternative for BETTER gear, why will anyone in their right mind bother with relic base on their mind set? its cause of collection.. why do i bother getting all 9 zenith before 2.1? cause of collection.. why do i get all primal weapon HM and EX? farm T1 to T4, save all DL and save all myth now for myth gear instead of clearing my pld weapon? cause of collection.. for ppl who aim for end game atma do not concern them in the first place.. Levi farm or T5 > atma farm/relic quest.

    i am going fine on atma, but i see the fault in the system, not cause i am not getting the atma (having 2 done working on third is enough to show that i am pushing for it) but cause the system itself is unfair.. 12 atma in a day for first and 12 in a week for 2nd.. and now third one stucking at 3/12 for 2 weeks?

    yes i agree i farmed less recently and been farming/doing other stuff like COB T6 levi farming and mog king (got 2 loot ytd YA!) but still if i can get 12 in a day and 3 in 2 weeks.. i wonder how many ppl are having 1 for these 2 month?

    what we are asking is a fair system or a normalization system that make it so that ppl who are not getting for long period get something.. or ppl who get everything in a day slow down so as to make it more fair.
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  6. #1346
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArcFinix View Post
    and why do u care in posting here now? u are moving from constructive feedback to verbal harassment to prove your point?
    Verball harassment LMAO. If that's verbal harassment, what do you call this?

    Quote Originally Posted by ArcFinix View Post
    troll
    I made a point about myth increase being an overall buff to the quest, get called a "troll" and apparently defending myself constitutes "verbal harassment".

    You really aren't too bright, are you? You wanna know what verbal harassment is? It's silly namecalling that you yourself are guilty of.


    Quote Originally Posted by ArcFinix View Post
    I have done 4 books (3 for sword 1 for shield on my PLD) and i find that alot more fun cause it is not all or nothing and it is progressive for everything u done.
    Opinion. I find farming Atmas more fun than running Brayflox 270 times because there's more variety to it without compromising effectiveness. Guess that makes me a troll! How DARE I have a different opinion!

    I am ilvl 91 blm.. and 89 to 91 for all class (i have farmed T1 to T4 and obtain every single loot, i got all 3x9 primal HM before ex is out, i have all primal ex weapon before 2.2 hit and i have only monk belt caster glove and healer hat lacking from CT as of now).
    irrelevant information. prob indirect bragging. who are you trying to impress?

    Am I supposed to be like "oh wow he has high levels and coil gears he must be right!"? Only elitists shove their levels and gears into other people's faces to make themselves seem right or important.

    Sure reminds me of this meme!

    "What the ____ did you just ___ing say about me, you little ____? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target... etc."

    Valid point? you have no valid point here. and by calling me whiny forum poster u just did a direct verbal assault. edit edit edti
    Translation: "My opinion is more important and valid than yours. I'm also allowed to partake in verbal harassment but not anyone else that disagrees with me!"

    Also: if you think pointing out that you're whining when you really are indeed whining is "verbal harassment", but calling someone a "troll" for having an opposing opinion isn't, that doesn't exactly make you look bright. just sayin.

    Quote Originally Posted by ArcFinix View Post
    and why do u care in posting here now? u are moving from constructive feedback to verbal harassment to prove your point?
    Because I have feedback and I have just as much right to post on here as you do. This is a feedback thread. Not a "only people that wanna whine about atmas feedback" thread. It's quite funny how rustled and offended some people get when they realize that not everyone is on their side. Sorry you can't handle opposing feedback!





    Just kidding I'm not really sorry.

    in b4 he comes back to this thread, doesn't read anything I wrote and immediately dismisses it as trolling and verbal harassment
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    Last edited by Zaels; 05-01-2014 at 05:58 AM.

  7. #1347
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    Update: Still think it's doo doo.
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